From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Ben Collins <ben.collins@ubuntu.com>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: Better CDROMEJECT
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:16:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051220141614.GK3734@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135087637.16754.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, Dec 20 2005, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:39 +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > Should be an easy check to add. In fact, I'll resend both patches with
> > > that in place if you want.
> >
> > There's still the quirky problem of forcing a locked tray out. In some
> > cases this is what you want, if things get stuck for some reason or
> > another. But usually the tray is locked for a good reason, because there
> > are active users of the device.
> >
> > Say two processes has the cdrom open, one of them doing io (maybe even
> > writing!), the other could do a CDROMEJECT now and force the ejection of
> > a busy drive.
>
> But that's possible now with "eject -s" as long as you have write access
> to it. Most users are using "eject -s" anyway.
>
> You can't stop this from happening. However, the fact is that a lot of
> devices (iPod's being the most popular) require this to work.
Well just because it (unfortunately) is already done by some other path,
doesn't make it a good idea by default and necessarily a reason to
further such bad principles.
The only way to really fix this would be requiring programs issuing
direct commands to a device to have it opened O_EXCL (and making sure
this actually works, right now it doesn't).
In reality, we are probably screwed :/
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-20 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-20 2:51 [RFC] Let non-root users eject their ipods? john stultz
2005-12-20 3:51 ` Wakko Warner
2005-12-20 3:49 ` john stultz
2005-12-20 5:05 ` Matthew Dharm
2005-12-24 21:16 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-12-20 5:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-12-20 6:06 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-12-20 8:56 ` Sander
2005-12-20 9:31 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-12-20 9:38 ` Sander
2005-12-20 16:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-20 11:10 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-12-20 7:46 ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-20 12:41 ` Ben Collins
2005-12-20 13:28 ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-20 13:32 ` Ben Collins
2005-12-20 13:39 ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-20 14:07 ` [PATCH] block: Better CDROMEJECT Ben Collins
2005-12-20 14:16 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2005-12-20 20:41 ` john stultz
2005-12-20 20:54 ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-20 20:55 ` john stultz
2005-12-20 20:58 ` Jens Axboe
2005-12-20 20:58 ` john stultz
2005-12-20 20:55 ` Ben Collins
2005-12-20 16:48 ` [RFC] Let non-root users eject their ipods? Bill Davidsen
2005-12-22 10:56 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-22 16:57 ` john stultz
2005-12-24 21:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
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