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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Gunter Ohrner <G.Ohrner@post.rwth-aachen.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RT 00/02] SLOB optimizations
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:19:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051220181921.GF3356@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135093460.13138.302.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 10:44:20AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> (Andrew, I'm CC'ing you and Matt to see if you would like this in -mm)
> 
> OK Ingo, here it is.
> 
> The old SLOB did the old K&R memory allocations.
> 
> It had a global link list "slobfree".  When it needed memory it would
> search this list linearly to find the first spot that fit and then
> return it.  It was broken up into SLOB_UNITS which was the number of
> bytes to hold slob_t.
> 
> Since the sizes of the allocations would greatly fluctuate, the chances
> for fragmentation was very high.  This would also cause the looking for
> free locations to increase, since the number of free blocks would also
> increase due to the fragmentation.

On the target systems for the original SLOB design, we have less than
16MB of memory, so the linked list walking is pretty well bounded.
 
> It also had one global spinlock for ALL allocations.  This would
> obviously kill SMP performance.

And again, the locking primarily exists for PREEMPT and small dual-core.
So I'm still a bit amused that you guys are using it for -RT.

> When any block was freed via kfree, it would first search all the big
> blocks to see if it was a large allocation, and if not, then it would
> search the slobfree list to find where it goes.  Both taking two global
> spinlocks!

I don't think this is correct, or else indicates a bug. We should only
scan the big block list when the freed block was page-aligned.

> First things first, the first patch was to get rid of the bigblock list.
> I'm simple used the method of SLAB to use the lru list field of the
> corresponding page to store the pointer to the bigblock descriptor which
> has the information to free it. This got rid of the bigblock link list
> and global spinlock.

This I like a lot. I'd like to see a size/performance measurement of
this by itself. I suspect it's an unambiguous win in both categories.
 
> The next patch was the big improvement, with the largest changes.  I
> took advantage of how the kmem_cache usage that SLAB also takes
> advantage of.  I created a memory pool like the global one, but for
> every cache with a size less then PAGE_SIZE >> 1.

Hmm. By every size, I assume you mean powers of two. Which negates
some of the fine-grained allocation savings that current SLOB provides.

[...]
> So I have improved the speed of SLOB to almost that of SLAB!

Nice.

For what it's worth, I think we really ought to consider a generalized
allocator approach like Sun's VMEM, with various removable pieces.

Currently we've got something like this:

 get_free_pages     boot_mem         idr    resource_*   vmalloc ...
        |
      slab
        |
  per_cpu/node
        |
  kmem_cache_alloc
        |
     kmalloc

We could take it in a direction like this:

 generic range allocator          (completely agnostic)
          |
  optional size buckets           (reduced fragmentation, O(1))
          |    
    optional slab                 (cache-friendly, pre-initialized)
          |
 optional per cpu/node caches     (cache-hot and lockless)
          |
 kmalloc / kmem_cache_alloc / boot_mem / idr / resource_* / vmalloc / ...

(You read that right, the top level allocator can replace all the
different allocators that hand back integers or non-overlapping ranges.)

Each user of, say, kmem_create() could then pass in flags to specify
which caching layers ought to be bypassed. IDR, for example, would
probably disable all the layers and specify a first-fit policy.

And then depending on our global size and performance requirements, we
could globally disable some layers like SLAB, buckets, or per_cpu
caches. With all the optional layers disabled, we'd end up with
something much like SLOB (but underneath get_free_page!).

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-20 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-16 11:30 2.6.15-rc5-rt2 slowness Gunter Ohrner
2005-12-16 11:42 ` Gunter Ohrner
2005-12-16 12:04   ` Gunter Ohrner
2005-12-16 12:34   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-16 12:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-16 22:58   ` john stultz
2005-12-17  0:22     ` Gunter Ohrner
2005-12-17  3:51     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-17  3:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-17 22:57   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-18 16:05     ` K.R. Foley
2005-12-20 13:32     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20 13:38       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 13:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20 14:04           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 14:33             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 15:07               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20 15:16                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 15:44             ` [PATCH RT 00/02] SLOB optimizations Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 15:56               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 15:58                 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20 16:13               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20 16:29                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 16:39                   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 18:19               ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2005-12-20 19:15                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 19:43                   ` Matt Mackall
2005-12-20 20:06                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 20:15                   ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-20 21:42                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 21:52                       ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-20 22:11                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-21  6:36                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21 12:50                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-21  6:56                       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21  7:16                         ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-12-21  7:50                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21 13:13                           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-21 15:34                             ` [PATCH] SLAB - have index_of bug at compile time Steven Rostedt
2005-12-21  7:20                         ` [PATCH RT 00/02] SLOB optimizations Eric Dumazet
2005-12-21  7:43                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21  8:02                             ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-22 18:02                               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-22 21:11                               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 21:39                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-22 21:44                                 ` George Anzinger
2005-12-22 22:00                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-22 22:08                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-23 19:22                                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-21 13:02                         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-21  2:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-21  2:41                     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 15:44             ` [PATCH RT 01/02] SLOB - remove bigblock list Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 15:44             ` [PATCH RT 02/02] SLOB - break SLOB up by caches Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 14:07           ` 2.6.15-rc5-rt2 slowness Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 15:26           ` K.R. Foley

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