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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/3] mutex subsystem: trylock
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:15:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051227131501.GA29134@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135685158.2926.22.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>


* Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:

> > + * 1) if the exclusive store fails we fail, and
> > + *
> > + * 2) if the decremented value is not zero we don't even attempt the store.
> 
> 
> btw I really think that 1) is wrong. trylock should do everything it 
> can to get the semaphore short of sleeping. Just because some 
> cacheline got written to (which might even be shared!) in the middle 
> of the atomic op is not a good enough reason to fail the trylock imho. 
> Going into the slowpath.. fine. But here it's a quality of 
> implementation issue; you COULD get the semaphore without sleeping (at 
> least probably, you'd have to retry to know for sure) but because 
> something wrote to the same cacheline as the lock... no. that's just 
> not good enough.. sorry.

point. I solved this in my tree by calling the generic trylock <fn> if 
there's an __ex_flag failure in the ARMv6 case. Should be rare (and thus 
the call is under unlikely()), and should thus still enable the fast 
implementation.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-27 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-23 16:16 [patch 00/11] mutex subsystem, -V7 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-24  5:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-24  5:23   ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-26 19:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-26 19:25 ` [patch 1/3] mutex subsystem: trylock Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-27 11:51   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 20:47     ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-28  7:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-28  8:13         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-28 16:29           ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-28 17:09             ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 12:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-27 13:15     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-12-29  4:06       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-29  8:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-29  9:01           ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-29 17:15             ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-30  2:05               ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-29 16:46           ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-29  3:22     ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-26 19:25 ` [patch 2/3] mutex subsystem: fastpath inlining Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-27 11:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 21:59     ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-28  7:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-29  2:53         ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-29  8:41           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-06 21:20             ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-26 19:26 ` [patch 3/3] mutex subsystem: inline mutex_is_locked() Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-27 11:37   ` Ingo Molnar

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