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From: Kenny Simpson <theonetruekenny@yahoo.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RAID controller safety
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:18:05 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051230161805.64631.qmail@web34110.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135955866.28365.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>

> >   Specificly, I am looking at the Adaptec RAID controllers and their i2o drivers.  I am told
> the
> > kernel's i2o driver lacks a strong guarantee on fsync, and so far am unable to determine if
> the
> > dpt_i2o driver also falls short in this reguard.
> 
> Only dpt can tell you what their firmware actually does.

Yeah, I wasn't so much interrested in the firmware just yet, just interrested if the device driver
(dpt_i2o) gave it a fighting chance of doing the right thing.

> The i2o core drivers use the following rules

> i2o_block by default assumes the card is caching. It adopts write
> through mode if the controller has no battery, write back if it shows
> battery. This can be configured differently via ioctls including the
> ability to tune write through of large I/O's (to avoid cache thrashing),
> and to do write back with no battery backup for performance in cases
> where losing the data on a crash doesn't matter (eg swap)

That's what I read in the comments too, but looking at the code I only ever see it set to
write-back.  I verified this with blktool - our controllers have no battery, and blktool showed
the i2o-wcache state as write-back.

However, I was also told that the i2o_block driver lacks barrier support, so even in the
write-back case, the controller won't be told to flush/sync.

I was sent a patch against 2.6.10 that implements barrier support in i2o_block, but the code base
has shifted too much for me to make it apply.

-Kenny



	
		
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-30 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-29 16:29 RAID controller safety Kenny Simpson
2005-12-30 15:17 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-30 16:18   ` Kenny Simpson [this message]
2005-12-30 18:20     ` Alan Cox
2005-12-30 18:58       ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-30 19:31         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-12-31  0:49         ` Alan Cox
2005-12-31  3:25           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-31  3:29           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-31  6:55           ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-31  7:57           ` Kenny Simpson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-06 14:33 Salyzyn, Mark
2006-01-06 14:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-06 15:18   ` Kenny Simpson
2006-01-06 16:02     ` Alan Cox
2006-01-06 17:06 Salyzyn, Mark

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