From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Moore's law (was Re: [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4)
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:30:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200601051631.00146.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051226003313.GB2440@ucw.cz>
On Monday 26 December 2005 01:33, Pavel Machek wrote:
[cc list from hell trimmed down]
> > Another example: Ingo's VFS stresstest which is hitting i_sem hard: it only
> > does ~8000 ops/sec on an 8-way, and it's an artificial microbenchmark which
> > is _designed_ to hit that lock hard. So if/when i_sem is converted to a
> > mutex, I figure that the benefits to ARM in that workload will be about a
> > 0.01% performance increase. ie: about two hours' worth of Moore's law in a
> > dopey microbenchmark.
Moore's law actually doesn't say anything about performance increases,
just about the number of transistors available.
>
> :-) Expressing performance increases in Moore's hours seems like
> neat trick. OTOH I do not think it is valid any more. Single-threaded
> performance stopped increasing 2 years ago AFAICS.
It's not true. e.g. a 2.6 Ghz FX-57 is significantly faster than the
top end CPU you could get 2 years ago. And I'm sure this years CPUs
will be still faster than last years.
> Plus people are
> pushing Linux onto smaller machines, that were unavailable 2 years
> ago.
Even smaller systems are still getting faster.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-05 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-22 11:41 [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 11:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 15:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 15:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 16:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 16:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 16:58 ` Russell King
2005-12-22 21:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 21:26 ` Russell King
2005-12-22 21:27 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:37 ` [patch 1/2] mutex subsystem: basic per arch fast path primitives Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 21:40 ` [patch 2/2] mutex subsystem: use the per architecture fast path lock_unlock defines Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:54 ` [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 16:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 17:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-22 18:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 11:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 12:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-22 13:07 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 13:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-22 13:44 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 14:11 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-22 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 23:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <32801.10.10.10.28.1135295357.squirrel@linux1>
2005-12-22 23:49 ` Sean
2005-12-22 23:53 ` Randy.Dunlap
[not found] ` <50572.10.10.10.28.1135296023.squirrel@linux1>
2005-12-23 0:00 ` Sean
2005-12-23 0:00 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <20051222221311.2f6056ec.akpm@osdl.org>
2005-12-23 14:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-23 14:51 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-23 14:57 ` Russell King
2005-12-23 15:04 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-12-23 15:27 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-23 15:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-03 17:54 ` Abhijit Bhopatkar
2005-12-25 16:08 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-25 22:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-26 21:49 ` Roman Zippel
2005-12-25 23:04 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-25 23:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-26 10:35 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-26 10:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-26 11:11 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-26 17:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2005-12-26 17:44 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-27 0:32 ` David Lang
2005-12-26 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-27 14:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-27 23:02 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-26 0:33 ` Moore's law (was Re: [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4) Pavel Machek
2006-01-05 15:30 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-01-05 19:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26 15:29 ` [patch 0/9] mutex subsystem, -V4 Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 15:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-12-22 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-22 20:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-22 17:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-22 15:19 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-22 21:43 ` Paul Mackerras
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