From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Joel Schopp <jschopp@austin.ibm.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Jes Sorensen <jes@trained-monkey.org>,
Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/21] mutex subsystem, -V14
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 23:43:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060105224357.GA30298@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601051411570.3169@g5.osdl.org>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> I _think_ your patch is the right approach, because most architectures
> are likely to do their own fast-paths for mutexes, and as such the
> generic ones are more of a template for how to do it, and hopefilly
> aren't that performance critical.
yeah, i think so too. We've got 3 architectures done in assembly so far,
and it seems people like optimizing such code. Also, since the generic
code does all the boring slowpath stuff, the architecture can
concentrate on the fun part alone: to make the fastpath really fast.
The generic code is still in full control of all the mutex semantics,
and can ignore asm/mutex.h when it wants/needs to. So i'm quite happy
with the current design and i'm not against more per-arch assembly fun,
at all.
there's one exception i think: atomic-xchg.h was pretty optimal on ARM,
and i'd expect it to be pretty optimal on the other atomic-swap
platforms too. So maybe we should specify atomic_xchg() to _not_ imply a
full barrier - it's a new API anyway. We cannot embedd the barrier
within atomic_xchg(), because the barrier is needed at different ends
for lock and for unlock, and adding two barriers would be unnecessary.
asm-generic/mutex-dec.h is less optimal (and thus less critical), and i
can see no easy way to modify it, because i think it would be quite
confusing to enforce 'lock' ordering for atomic_dec_return(), and
'unlock' ordering for atomic_inc_return(). We cannot remove the existing
barriers either (and add them explicitly), because there are existing
users of these primitives. (although we could add explicit barriers to
those too - but probably not worth the trouble)
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-05 22:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-04 14:41 [patch 00/21] mutex subsystem, -V14 Ingo Molnar
2006-01-04 23:45 ` Joel Schopp
2006-01-05 2:38 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-01-05 2:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-05 3:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-05 3:39 ` Anton Blanchard
2006-01-05 18:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-01-05 14:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-05 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-05 22:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-05 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-05 22:43 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-01-06 3:49 ` Keith Owens
2006-01-06 7:34 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-05 14:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-05 16:42 ` Joel Schopp
2006-01-05 22:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-05 23:06 ` Joel Schopp
2006-01-05 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-05 23:36 ` Joel Schopp
2006-01-05 23:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-06 0:29 ` Olof Johansson
2006-01-07 17:49 ` PowerPC fastpaths for mutex subsystem Joel Schopp
2006-01-07 22:37 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-08 7:43 ` Anton Blanchard
2006-01-08 8:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-08 8:23 ` Anton Blanchard
2006-01-09 11:13 ` David Howells
2006-01-08 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-10 22:31 ` Joel Schopp
2006-01-10 23:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-11 10:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-11 17:44 ` Joel Schopp
2006-01-08 10:43 ` Ingo Molnar
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