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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Console debugging wishlist was: Re: oops pauser.
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:45:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200601102145.53967.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0601102121400.16049@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>

On Tuesday 10 January 2006 21:25, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> An oops is usually a condition you can recover from in some/most/depends 
> cases (e.g. a null deref in a filesystem "only" makes that vfsmount 
> (filesystem at all?) blocked), so if the kernel is waiting for user input 
> on a non-panic condition, this means userspace stops too, which is not 
> too good if the kernel is still 'alive'.
> It's like we are entering kdb although everything is fine enough to go 
> through a proper `init 6`.

-ENOPARSE

> 
> >What would be also cool would be to fix the VGA console to have 
> >a larger scroll back buffer.  The standard kernel boot output 
> >is far larger than the default scrollback, so if you get a hang
> >late you have no way to look back to all the earlier 
> >messages.
> >
> >(it is hard to understand that with 128MB+ graphic cards and 512+MB
> >computers the scroll back must be still so short...) 
> 
> I doubt this scrollback buffer is implemented as part of the video cards. 
> It is rather a kernel invention, and therefore uses standard RAM. But the 
> idea is good, preferably make it a CONFIG_ option.

At least long ago (when I last looked) it was in video RAM. 

> 
> >And fixing sysrq to work after panics would be also nice.
> 
> I am not sure, but would enabling interrupts be enough?

Interrupts are already enabled, but no - it's not.

Thank you for an useful contribution to the thread.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-10 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-05  4:52 oops pauser Dave Jones
2006-01-05  6:10 ` oops pauser. / boot_delayer Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-05  7:30   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-01-05  8:07     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-06  1:28       ` David Lang
2006-01-06  5:36         ` Dave Jones
2006-01-06  7:00           ` David Lang
2006-01-08 13:21           ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-08 19:30             ` Josef Sipek
2006-01-08 23:08               ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-08 23:39                 ` Josef Sipek
2006-01-06  7:36         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-06  8:33           ` David Lang
2006-01-05  9:25     ` Grant Coady
2006-01-05 15:31       ` Mark Lord
2006-01-05 15:38         ` Avishay Traeger
2006-01-05 19:15           ` Mark Lord
2006-01-05 11:11     ` Dave Jones
2006-01-07 21:44       ` Kurtis D. Rader
2006-01-07 21:48         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-01-07 22:00           ` Kurtis D. Rader
2006-01-08 23:29           ` David Lang
2006-01-07 22:27         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-01-05  8:15 ` oops pauser Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 10:33   ` Dave Jones
2006-01-05 11:05     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 12:05       ` Keith Owens
2006-01-05 15:17       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-05 13:46     ` Kurt Wall
2006-01-06  1:24     ` David Lang
2006-01-06  1:41       ` Josef Sipek
2006-01-08 13:38     ` Ville Herva
2006-01-08 13:53       ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-08 19:35         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-09  1:43           ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-08 19:40         ` Grant Coady
2006-01-09  1:45           ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-09 16:15             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-09 16:25               ` Ville Herva
2006-01-09 16:39               ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-05 13:37 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-05 20:52   ` Dave Jones
2006-01-06 13:31     ` Alan Cox
2006-01-06 20:33       ` Dave Jones
2006-01-06 15:22     ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-06 19:06       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-06 22:34         ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-06 22:48       ` Dave Jones
2006-01-05 13:58 ` Avishay Traeger
2006-01-05 20:54   ` Dave Jones
2006-01-06  0:19   ` Josef Sipek
2006-01-06  1:12     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-01-06  1:35       ` Josef Sipek
2006-01-06  2:21         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-01-05 14:39 ` Kyle McMartin
2006-01-09 18:43 ` Console debugging wishlist was: " Andi Kleen
2006-01-10 20:25   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-10 20:29     ` Josef Sipek
2006-01-10 20:44       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-10 22:54         ` Josef Sipek
2006-01-10 20:46       ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-10 20:45     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-01-10 21:06       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-10 21:18         ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-10 21:30           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-11 12:24     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-01-11 12:31       ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-11 13:05         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-01-11 13:17           ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-11 13:43             ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-01-11 13:51               ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-11 18:34           ` Jan Engelhardt
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     [not found] ` <5tagc-6AZ-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-15 16:48   ` Bodo Eggert
2006-01-15 17:13     ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-15 20:51       ` Jan Engelhardt

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