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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Muli Ben-Yehuda <mulix@mulix.org>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>, Jon Mason <jdmason@us.ibm.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <slaby@liberouter.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent trident driver from grabbing pcnet32 hardware
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:23:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060113122358.GH29663@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060113113756.GL5399@granada.merseine.nu>

On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:37:56PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 05:42:10PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 23:00 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > CYBER5050 is discussed in ALSA bug #1293 (tester wanted).
> > 
> > OK I set that bug to FEEDBACK, but it's open 5 months now and no testers
> > are forthcoming.  I think if we don't find one as a result of this
> > thread we can assume no one cares about this hardware anymore.
> > 
> > I'm still not sure that just adding it to the ALSA driver and hoping it
> > works is the best solution.  Would we rather users see right away that
> > their hardware isn't supported, or have the driver load and get no sound
> > or hang the machine?
> 
> ... or use the known working OSS driver?
>...

In my experience with scheduling OSS drivers for removal, users simply 
use the OSS drivers unless you tell them very explicitely that the OSS 
driver will go.

It shouldn't be too hard to port the support to ALSA if someone with the  
hardware is willing to test patches.

The goal is to get people still using OSS drivers where ALSA drivers 
support the same hardware to use the ALSA drivers - and if there were 
bugs in the ALSA drivers preventing them to switch to ALSA, to report 
them to the ALSA bug tracking system.

This has the following advantages:
- better ALSA drivers
- get rid of some unmaintained code in the kernel
 
> Cheers,
> Muli

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-13 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-12 17:50 [PATCH] Prevent trident driver from grabbing pcnet32 hardware Jon Mason
2006-01-12 19:28 ` Jiri Slaby
2006-01-12 19:34   ` Jiri Slaby
2006-01-12 20:07   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-01-12 21:15     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-12 21:58       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-12 22:06         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-12 22:11           ` Jon Mason
2006-01-12 22:46           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-12 21:47     ` Jon Mason
2006-01-12 22:00       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-12 22:09         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-12 22:20         ` Jon Mason
2006-01-12 22:42         ` Lee Revell
2006-01-12 22:52           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-12 22:55             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 10:16               ` Alan Cox
2006-01-12 23:32             ` Old hardware (was Re: [PATCH] Prevent trident driver from grabbing pcnet32 hardware) Lee Revell
2006-01-12 23:52               ` Bob Copeland
2006-01-13 10:28           ` [PATCH] Prevent trident driver from grabbing pcnet32 hardware Alan Cox
2006-01-13 17:55             ` Lee Revell
2006-01-13 11:37           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-01-13 12:23             ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-01-13 12:32               ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-01-13 15:24                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-13 15:36                   ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-01-12 22:08     ` Jon Mason
2006-01-12 20:49 ` pcnet32 devices with incorrect trident vendor ID Daniel Drake
2006-01-12 20:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-01-12 21:03     ` Daniel Drake
2006-01-12 21:05     ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-01-12 21:22       ` Bill Nottingham
2006-01-12 21:24         ` Bill Nottingham
2006-01-12 22:23           ` Don Fry
2006-01-12 22:33             ` Jon Mason
2006-01-12 21:05   ` Lennart Sorensen

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