From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: MIke Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Paolo Ornati <ornati@fastwebnet.it>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [SCHED] wrong priority calc - SIMPLE test case
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:18:51 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200601281018.52121.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1138392368.7770.72.camel@homer>
On Saturday 28 January 2006 07:06, MIke Galbraith wrote:
> What do you think of the below as an evaluation patch? It leaves the
> bits I'd really like to change (INTERACTIVE_SLEEP() for one), so it can
> be switched on and off for easy comparison and regression testing.
>
> I really didn't want to add more to the task struct, but after trying
> different things, a timeout was the most effective means of keeping the
> nice burst aspect of the interactivity logic but still make sure that a
> burst doesn't turn into starvation.
>
> The workings are dirt simple just as before. The goal is to keep
> sleep_avg and slice_avg balanced. When an imbalance starts, immediately
> cut off interactive bonus points. If the imbalance doesn't correct
> itself through normal sleep_avg usage, we'll soon hit the (1 dynamic
> prio) trigger point, which starts a countdown toward active
> intervention. The default setting is that a task can run at higher
> dynamic priority than it's cpu usage can justify for 5 seconds. After
> than, we start trying to work off the deficit, and if we don't succeeded
> within another second (ie it was a big deficit), we demote the offender
> to the rank his cpu usage indicates.
>
> The strategy works well enough to take the wind out of irman2's sails,
> and interactive tasks can still do a nice reasonable burst of activity
> without being evicted. Down side to starvation control is that X is
> sometimes a serious cpu user, and _can_ end up in the expired array (not
> nice under load). I personally don't think that's a show stopper
> though... all you have to do is tell the scheduler that what it already
> noticed, that X is a piggy, but an OK piggy by renicing it. It becomes
> immune from active throttling, and all is well. I know that's not going
> to be popular, but you just can't let X have free rein without leaving
> the barn door wide open. (maybe that switch should stay since the
> majority of boxen are workstations, and default to off?).
Sounds good but I have to disagree on the X renice thing. It's not that I have
a religious objection to renicing things. The problem is that our mainline
scheduler determines latency also by nice level. This means that if you
-renice a bursty cpu hog like X, then audio applications will fail unless
they too are reniced. Try it on your patch.
Con
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-27 23:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-27 16:57 [SCHED] wrong priority calc - SIMPLE test case Con Kolivas
2006-01-27 20:06 ` MIke Galbraith
2006-01-27 23:18 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-01-28 0:01 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-28 3:43 ` MIke Galbraith
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-27 18:09 [SCHED] Totally WRONG prority calculation with specific test-case (since 2.6.10-bk12) Paolo Ornati
2005-12-27 21:48 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-27 23:26 ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-30 13:52 ` [SCHED] wrong priority calc - SIMPLE test case Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 2:06 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-31 10:34 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 10:52 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 11:12 ` Con Kolivas
2005-12-31 13:44 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-31 16:31 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 22:04 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-31 8:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2005-12-31 11:00 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 15:11 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 16:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2005-12-31 17:24 ` Paolo Ornati
2005-12-31 17:42 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-01 11:39 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-02 9:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-02 9:50 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-09 11:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-09 15:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-09 16:08 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-09 18:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-09 20:00 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-09 20:23 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-10 7:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-10 12:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-10 12:56 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-10 13:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-10 13:53 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-10 15:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-13 1:13 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-13 1:32 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-13 10:46 ` Paolo Ornati
2006-01-13 10:51 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-13 13:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-13 14:34 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-13 16:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-14 2:05 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-14 2:56 ` Mike Galbraith
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