From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964855AbWBGShp (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:37:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964857AbWBGShp (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:37:45 -0500 Received: from atpro.com ([12.161.0.3]:52240 "EHLO atpro.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964855AbWBGSho (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:37:44 -0500 From: "Jim Crilly" Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:37:12 -0500 To: Joerg Schilling Cc: matthias.andree@gmx.de, peter.read@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <20060207183712.GC5341@voodoo> Mail-Followup-To: Joerg Schilling , matthias.andree@gmx.de, peter.read@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20060123105634.GA17439@merlin.emma.line.org> <200602021717.08100.luke@dashjr.org> <200602031724.55729.luke@dashjr.org> <43E7545E.nail7GN11WAQ9@burner> <73d8d0290602060706o75f04c1cx@mail.gmail.com> <43E7680E.2000506@gmx.de> <20060206205437.GA12270@voodoo> <43E89B56.nailA792EWNLG@burner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <43E89B56.nailA792EWNLG@burner> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 02/07/06 02:06:30PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Jim Crilly" wrote: > > > You're not alone, I'm still waiting for an answer as to why cdrecord is > > the only userland app on any OS to use his SCSI ID naming convention > > and yet his is the correct way. I've asked twice and been blatantly > > ignored both times. > > Well, while I did explain this many times (*), I am still waiting > for an explanation why Linux tries to deviate from nearly all other OS. > > *) in case you like are on amnesia: without the mapping in libscg, > cdrecord could not be used reliably on Linux. And yes, I _do_ care > about people who run Linux-2.4 or older! > > > It seems that we should stop this discussion. > > As long as the peeople who answer here are onlookers without the > needed skills, it seems to be a waste of time. > > Jörg All you've explained is that using SCSI ID for device names is the way you want cdrecord to work, not why it's infinitely better than using real device names like every other userland program on every OS in existance. And please name a case where 'cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom file.iso' won't work reliably because I, and it would seem many others, haven't run into it. there was the case where recording audio doesn't do DMA, but that's a bug in ide-scsi and I AFAIK it doesn't matter whether you use dev=/scd0 or dev=1,0,0 to address the drive. And also, I believe dev=/dev/scd0 will work with ide-scsi in 2.4, but I don't have a machine to test that on. The people replying here are your users, if you don't want to listen to them pretty much any conversation with you will be a waste of time. Jim.