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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: OOM behavior in constrained memory situations
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:58:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602071858.13002.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0602070947100.24920@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Tuesday 07 February 2006 18:51, Christoph Lameter wrote:

> > I back then spent some time to make the data structure as small as possible
> > and I would hate to destroy it with such thoughtless changes.
> 
> Well the ability to set bits for policy controlled allocations may come in 
> handy if we want to support memory policy controlling some other aspect 
> for page allocation.

Actually looking at it again "v" should be aligned to 4 bytes anyways, so
there is a unused 2 byte hole that you can use for this.

Still think the way of converting the policy is more elegant though.

> > when MPOL_BIND == node_online_map automatically revert to MPOL_PREFERED with empty mask.
> > Then on the allocation only set the gfp flag for MPOL_BIND
> 
> That would work for MPOL_BIND. How about MPOL_INTERLEAVE with a restricted 
> set of nodes? cpusets may cause any policy to have a restricted nodeset.

MPOL_INTERLEAVE isn't strict, so it can never cause OOMs unless the complete
system is out of memory. It just changes which node is tried first.

> 
> > > Should the system swap if an MPOL_BIND request does not find enough 
> > > memory? Maybe it would be good to not swap, rely on zone_reclaim only and 
> > > fail if there is no local memory? 
> > 
> > Not sure. I guess it depends. Maybe it needs a nodeswappiness sysctl.
> 
> Hmm.... Maybe make this a separate post?

Do you have enough new thoughts on it for one?

> > > We could change __GFP_NO_OOM_KILLER to __GFP_CONSTRAINED_ALLOC and then 
> > > not invoke kswapd and neither the OOM killer on a constrained allocation.
> > 
> > That could be a problem if one node is filled with dirty file cache pages,
> > no? There needs to be some action to free it. I had a few reports of this case.
> > It needs to make at least some effort to wait for these pages and push them out.
> 
> zone_reclaim can be configured to write out dirty file cache pages during 
> reclaim. So this could be addressed. 

Would be good.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-07 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-06 20:59 OOM behavior in constrained memory situations Christoph Lameter
2006-02-06 21:10 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-06 21:22   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06 22:16     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-06 22:25       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06 22:30       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-07  0:03         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-09 23:08           ` David Gibson
2006-02-06 22:11   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-06 22:26     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-06 22:59 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-07  0:39   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-07  1:55   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-07  9:23     ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-07 17:29       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-07 17:45         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-07 17:51           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-07 17:58             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-02-07 18:10               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-07 18:19               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-07 18:31                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-07 19:00                   ` Christoph Lameter

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