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From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: ak@suse.de, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Terminate process that fails on a constrained allocation
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:55:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060208125521.b9a2aa5e.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0602081228260.4335@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Can anyone give us a good reason why we shouldn't just remove the oom
killer, entirely?

Christoph wrote:
> If a task has restricted its memory allocation to one node and does 
> excessive allocations then that process needs to die not other processes 
> that are harmlessly running on the node and that may not be allocating 
> memory at the time.

That _exact_ same argument applies to a system that only has one node.

If we want to remove the oom killer, lets just remove the oom killer.


> People are accustomed of having random processes killed? <shudder>

That's what the oom killer does ... well, it makes an honest effort
not to be random.

So, yes, since it has been there a long time, people are used to
it.  Maybe they don't like it, maybe with good reason.  But it
is there.


> OOM killing makes 
> sense for global allocations if the system is really tight on memory and 
> survival is the main goal

If that argument justifies OOM killing on a simple UMA system, then
surely, for -some- critical tasks, it justifies it on a big NUMA system.

Either OOM is useful in some cases or it is not.


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-08 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-08 18:05 Terminate process that fails on a constrained allocation Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 18:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 18:34   ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 18:54     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 19:01       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 19:15         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 18:33 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 18:42   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 18:57     ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 19:02       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 19:05       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 20:22         ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 20:36           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 20:55             ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2006-02-08 21:01               ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 21:03                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 21:21                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 21:39                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-08 22:11                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 22:41                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 23:29                           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:35                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-08 22:48                         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:28                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-08 23:54                           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:57                             ` Andi Kleen
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2006-02-08 20:14 linux

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