From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: ak@suse.de, akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Terminate process that fails on a constrained allocation
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:55:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060208125521.b9a2aa5e.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0602081228260.4335@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Can anyone give us a good reason why we shouldn't just remove the oom
killer, entirely?
Christoph wrote:
> If a task has restricted its memory allocation to one node and does
> excessive allocations then that process needs to die not other processes
> that are harmlessly running on the node and that may not be allocating
> memory at the time.
That _exact_ same argument applies to a system that only has one node.
If we want to remove the oom killer, lets just remove the oom killer.
> People are accustomed of having random processes killed? <shudder>
That's what the oom killer does ... well, it makes an honest effort
not to be random.
So, yes, since it has been there a long time, people are used to
it. Maybe they don't like it, maybe with good reason. But it
is there.
> OOM killing makes
> sense for global allocations if the system is really tight on memory and
> survival is the main goal
If that argument justifies OOM killing on a simple UMA system, then
surely, for -some- critical tasks, it justifies it on a big NUMA system.
Either OOM is useful in some cases or it is not.
--
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Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.925.600.0401
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-08 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-08 18:05 Terminate process that fails on a constrained allocation Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 18:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 18:34 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 18:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 19:01 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 18:33 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 18:57 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 19:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 19:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 20:22 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 20:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 20:55 ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2006-02-08 21:01 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 21:03 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 21:21 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 21:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-08 22:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 22:41 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-08 23:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-08 22:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-08 23:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-08 23:57 ` Andi Kleen
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2006-02-08 20:14 linux
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