From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030374AbWBHQxv (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:53:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030592AbWBHQxv (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:53:51 -0500 Received: from hummeroutlaws.com ([12.161.0.3]:521 "EHLO atpro.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030374AbWBHQxu (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:53:50 -0500 From: "Jim Crilly" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:53:30 -0500 To: Joerg Schilling Cc: peter.read@gmail.com, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <20060208165330.GB17534@voodoo> Mail-Followup-To: Joerg Schilling , peter.read@gmail.com, matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200602031724.55729.luke@dashjr.org> <43E7545E.nail7GN11WAQ9@burner> <73d8d0290602060706o75f04c1cx@mail.gmail.com> <43E7680E.2000506@gmx.de> <20060206205437.GA12270@voodoo> <43E89B56.nailA792EWNLG@burner> <20060207183712.GC5341@voodoo> <43E9F1CD.nail2BR11FL52@burner> <20060208162828.GA17534@voodoo> <43EA1D26.nail40E11SL53@burner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43EA1D26.nail40E11SL53@burner> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 02/08/06 05:32:38PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Jim Crilly" wrote: > > > On 02/08/06 02:27:41PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > "Jim Crilly" wrote: > > > > > > > All you've explained is that using SCSI ID for device names is the way > > > > you want cdrecord to work, not why it's infinitely better than using real > > > > device names like every other userland program on every OS in existance. > > > > > > I did many times, but people don't seem to listen. > > > > But you've never answered the question as to why every other userland > > program on every OS uses device names when cdrecord insists on using SCSI > > IDs. Do you really think mount, fsck, tar, etc are broken because they let > > the user use device names that they're accustomed to like /dev/c0t0d0s0? If > > so, I look forward to the day that you try to patch OpenSolaris' userland > > to work like cdrecord. > > You just verify that you don't listen... Yes, I have been listening and I haven't seen you list one reason why cdrecord absolutely has to use SCSI IDs when fsck can get away with using /dev/blah just fine. > I did answer this many times and I will not repeat it another time. > > Note that you are of course wrong with your statement on other CD/DVD writing > software. And of course you won't tell me exactly what I'm wrong about and/or point me to some proof because then you might actually come off as helpful. > What you like to see does not work at all on MS-WIN. That's not my problem, but I would assume that Windows users would also rather use a meaningful name like dev=D: instead of some random SCSI ID. Jim.