From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
frankeh@watson.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
devel@openvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>
Subject: swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:54:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060208215412.GD2353@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m13biwnxkc.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Hi!
> > Could you explain a bit why the container ID would need to be
> > virtualized?
>
> As someone said to me a little bit ago, for migration or checkpointing
> ultimately you have to capture the entire user/kernel interface if
> things are going to work properly. Now if we add this facility to
> the kernel and it is a general purpose facility. It is only a matter
> of time before we need to deal with nested containers.
>
> Not considering the case of having nested containers now is just foolish.
> Maybe we don't have to implement it yet but not considering it is silly.
>
> As far as I can tell there is a very reasonable chance that when we
> are complete there is a very reasonable chance that software suspend
> will just be a special case of migration, done complete in user space.
> That is one of the more practical examples I can think of where this
> kind of functionality would be used.
Well, for now software suspend is done at very different level
(it snapshots complete kernel state), but being able to use
migration for this is certainly nice option.
BTW you could do whole-machine-migration now with uswsusp; but you'd
need identical hardware and it would take a bit long...
Pavel
--
Thanks, Sharp!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-09 17:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-03 16:58 [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Virtualization/containers: UIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Virtualization/containers: UTSNAME Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 8:53 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 17:22 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 18:34 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-03 18:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-03 19:18 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 19:56 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 20:19 ` Greg KH
2006-02-03 20:34 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-05 15:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:39 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06 9:08 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:31 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 12:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:05 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:35 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 16:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-06 17:21 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 0:28 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 12:21 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 22:21 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 11:56 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 18:36 ` Summary: PID virtualization , Containers, Migration Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Rik van Riel
2006-02-05 14:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 9:00 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 9:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 18:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:40 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 1:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 21:54 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-02-09 18:20 ` swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup) Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 0:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 4:31 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10 6:23 ` [Devel] " Vasily Averin
2006-02-11 2:38 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-11 17:29 ` Vasily Averin
2006-02-12 23:29 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10 8:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 5:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-10 6:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 10:16 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-05 20:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06 9:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-02-06 9:03 ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
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