From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: oliver@neukum.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, linux@horizon.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:11:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060210121130.57db39bc.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602101152150.19172@g5.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> >
> > Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 20:05 schrieb Linus Torvalds:
> > > So we may have different expectations, because we've seen different
> > > patterns. Me, I've seen the "events are huge, and you stagger them", so
> > > that the previous event has time to flow out to disk while you generate
> > > the next one. There, MS_ASYNC starting IO is _wrong_, because the scale of
> > > the event is just huge, so trying to push it through the IO subsystem asap
> > > just makes everything suck.
> >
> > Isn't the benefit of starting writing immediately greater the smaller
> > the area in question? If so, couldn't a heuristic be found to decide whether
> > to initiate IO at once?
>
> Quite possibly. I suspect you could/should take other issues into account
> too (like whether the queue to the device is busy or bdflush is already
> working).
>
Yes, it would make sense to run balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() inside
msync_pte_range(). So pdflush will get poked if we hit
background_dirty_ratio threshold, or we go into caller-initiated writeout
if we hit dirty_ratio.
But it's not completely trivial, because I don't think we want to be doing
blocking writeback with mmap_sem held.
The code under balance_dirty_pages() does pay attention to queue congestion
states, already-under-writeback pages and such things, but it could be
better, I guess. Starting some writeback earlier if the queue is deemed to
be idle could work.
(Hi, Stephen)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-10 20:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-09 7:18 msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch? linux
2006-02-09 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 8:35 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 12:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 12:39 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 17:48 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:36 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 3:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:30 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 5:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 5:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 5:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:31 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 12:41 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:59 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 16:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-10 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 20:11 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-02-10 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 22:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 23:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 19:07 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 17:29 ` linux
2006-02-10 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 8:00 ` linux
2006-02-10 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:15 ` linux
2006-02-10 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 11:18 ` linux
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-31 22:16 Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 23:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 23:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-16 22:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-19 21:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21 2:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-21 9:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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