From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@cyclades.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
frankeh@watson.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com,
alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
devel@openvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:40:56 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602101541.07631.ncunningham@cyclades.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m13biwnxkc.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
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Hi.
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 04:37, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com> writes:
> > On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 02:19 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> That you placed the namespaces in a separate structure from
> >> task_struct.
> >> That part seems completely unnecessary, that and the addition of a
> >> global id in a completely new namespace that will be a pain to
> >> virtualize
> >> when it's time comes.
> >
> > Could you explain a bit why the container ID would need to be
> > virtualized?
>
> As someone said to me a little bit ago, for migration or checkpointing
> ultimately you have to capture the entire user/kernel interface if
> things are going to work properly. Now if we add this facility to
> the kernel and it is a general purpose facility. It is only a matter
> of time before we need to deal with nested containers.
>
> Not considering the case of having nested containers now is just foolish.
> Maybe we don't have to implement it yet but not considering it is silly.
>
> As far as I can tell there is a very reasonable chance that when we
> are complete there is a very reasonable chance that software suspend
> will just be a special case of migration, done complete in user space.
> That is one of the more practical examples I can think of where this
> kind of functionality would be used.
Am I missing something? I though migration referred only to userspace
processes. Software suspend on the other hand, deals with the whole system,
of which process data/context is only a part.
Regards,
Nigel
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-03 16:58 [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Virtualization/containers: UIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Virtualization/containers: UTSNAME Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 8:53 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 17:22 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 18:34 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-03 18:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-03 19:18 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 19:56 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 20:19 ` Greg KH
2006-02-03 20:34 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-05 15:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:39 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06 9:08 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:31 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 12:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:05 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:35 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 16:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-06 17:21 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 0:28 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 12:21 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 22:21 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 11:56 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 18:36 ` Summary: PID virtualization , Containers, Migration Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 18:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Rik van Riel
2006-02-05 14:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 9:00 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 9:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 18:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:40 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 1:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 21:54 ` swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup) Pavel Machek
2006-02-09 18:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10 0:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 4:31 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10 6:23 ` [Devel] " Vasily Averin
2006-02-11 2:38 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-11 17:29 ` Vasily Averin
2006-02-12 23:29 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10 8:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 5:40 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2006-02-10 6:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 10:16 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-05 20:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06 9:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-02-06 9:03 ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
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