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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nigel@suspend2.net,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] swsusp: freeze user space processes first
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:36:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060210203636.GA1761@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060205142226.GA20141@elte.hu>

Hi!

> > > then i'd suggest to change the vfork implementation to make this code 
> > > freezable. Nothing that userspace does should cause freezing to fail.  
> > > If it does, we've designed things incorrectly on the kernel side.
> > 
> > Does that also mean we have bugs with signal delivery? If vfork(); 
> > sleep(100000); causes process to be uninterruptible for few days, it 
> > will not be killable and increase load average...
> 
> "half-done" vforks are indeed in uninterruptible sleep. They are not 
> directly killable, but they are killable indirectly through their 
> parent. But yes, in theory it would be cleaner if the vfork code used 
> wait_for_completion_interruptible(). It has to be done carefully though, 
> for two reasons:
> 
> - implementational: use task_lock()/task_unlock() to protect
>   p->vfork_done in mm_release() and in do_fork().
> 
> - semantical: signals to a vfork-ing parent are defined to be delayed
>   to after the child has released the parent/MM.

We could still deliver sigkill and stopping for the freezer, no?

> the (untested) patch below handles issue #1, but doesnt handle issue #2: 
> this patch opens up a vfork parent to get interrupted early, with any 
> signal.

It seems to fix D state for me, and does not seem to have any ill
effects.

							Pavel

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      reply	other threads:[~2006-02-10 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-05  9:14 [PATCH -mm] swsusp: freeze user space processes first Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-05  9:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-05 10:34   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-05 10:50     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-05 11:11       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-05 11:18         ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-05 11:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-05 13:34             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-10 20:20             ` vfork makes processes uninterruptible [was Re: [PATCH -mm] swsusp: freeze user space processes first] Pavel Machek
2006-02-05 11:11       ` [PATCH -mm] swsusp: freeze user space processes first Pavel Machek
2006-02-05 14:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-10 20:36           ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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