From: Marc Koschewski <marc@osknowledge.org>
To: Doug McNaught <doug@mcnaught.org>
Cc: Marc Koschewski <marc@osknowledge.org>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:44:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060211154448.GE5721@stiffy.osknowledge.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87u0b5sybs.fsf@asmodeus.mcnaught.org>
* Doug McNaught <doug@mcnaught.org> [2006-02-11 10:35:19 -0500]:
> Marc Koschewski <marc@osknowledge.org> writes:
>
> > The cdrecord man page says this:
> >
> > Setting the -immed flag will request the command to return
> > immediately while the operation proceeds in background, making
> > the bus usable for the other devices and avoiding the system
> > freeze. This is an experimental feature which may work or
> > not, depending on the model of the CD/DVD writer. A correct
> > solution would be to set up a correct cabling but there seem
> > to be notebooks around that have been set up the wrong way by
> > the manufacturer. As it is impossible to fix this problem in
> > notebooks, the -immed option has been added.
>
> > It how can the bus run the command sent on the device 'in the
> >background' when it can only process _one_ request at a time?
> >
> > To me it sound like the foreground process (cdrecord) fork()s a
> >process to blank the CD-RW. Clear. But you said the bus is not able
> >to do so... I'm not getting this.
>
> Some CD writers are apparently able to release the bus while
> blanking, allowing use of the bus by other devices. The 'immed' flag
> tries to use this feature. fork() has nothing to do with it--he's
> talking about the IDE command, not the cdrecord program.
I just thought about fork() as Alan (surely and others) told the IDE bus cannot
run several commands at a time. So fork() was the only left-over I could think
of. I didn't know some devices can kinda 'detach' themselves as long as the
blank is going on...
Things are clear now. OK, more clear. Not clear. ;)
Marc
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-11 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-27 16:37 CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-29 11:01 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 11:15 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 11:28 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 15:24 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-05 12:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 16:29 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-06 17:17 ` René Rebe
2006-02-06 18:02 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 11:26 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 20:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 20:50 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 21:28 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:11 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 16:31 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:35 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:08 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:14 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:30 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:37 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:49 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 20:22 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-31 10:17 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-01-30 20:24 ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-31 10:47 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 11:22 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01 0:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 7:45 ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-01 16:41 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 23:55 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 15:25 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:09 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 23:26 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-01 15:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-31 1:43 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-01-31 1:47 ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 David S. Miller
2006-01-31 11:13 ` Gerhard Mack
2006-01-31 11:18 ` David S. Miller
2006-02-01 0:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:12 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 15:25 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01 16:32 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 16:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 16:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 18:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-03 12:58 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:15 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-03 16:43 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:30 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-02-03 19:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 4:49 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01 7:56 ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-01 16:42 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 0:30 ` Kurt Wall
2006-02-01 11:33 ` Rene Herman
2006-02-01 16:21 ` Jon Agirre
2006-02-02 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 23:15 ` Peter Chubb
2006-02-07 5:00 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01 16:36 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 17:01 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 19:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-31 16:46 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 14:15 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
[not found] ` <515e525f0601302205h4a845f36u12b946515759239a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-01-31 6:46 ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 8:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-01 0:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-02 16:45 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 17:58 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 19:19 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 19:39 ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 20:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 21:00 ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 21:00 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 21:26 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 21:35 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-11 15:16 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-11 15:25 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-11 15:35 ` Doug McNaught
2006-02-11 15:44 ` Marc Koschewski [this message]
2006-02-10 23:23 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-10 23:41 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 23:50 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Doug McNaught
2006-02-10 23:56 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-11 1:03 ` hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)
2006-02-11 1:08 ` Marc Koschewski
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