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From: Marc Koschewski <marc@osknowledge.org>
To: Doug McNaught <doug@mcnaught.org>
Cc: Marc Koschewski <marc@osknowledge.org>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:44:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060211154448.GE5721@stiffy.osknowledge.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87u0b5sybs.fsf@asmodeus.mcnaught.org>

* Doug McNaught <doug@mcnaught.org> [2006-02-11 10:35:19 -0500]:

> Marc Koschewski <marc@osknowledge.org> writes:
> 
> > The cdrecord man page says this:
> >
> > 	Setting the -immed flag will request the command to return
> > 	immediately while the operation proceeds in background, making
> > 	the bus usable for the other devices and avoiding the system
> > 	freeze.  This is an experimental feature which may work or
> > 	not, depending on the model of the CD/DVD writer.  A correct
> > 	solution would be to set up a correct cabling but there seem
> > 	to be notebooks around that have been set up the wrong way by
> > 	the manufacturer.  As it is impossible to fix this problem in
> > 	notebooks, the -immed option has been added.
> 
> > It how can the bus run the command sent on the device 'in the
> >background' when it can only process _one_ request at a time?
> >
> > To me it sound like the foreground process (cdrecord) fork()s a
> >process to blank the CD-RW. Clear. But you said the bus is not able
> >to do so... I'm not getting this.
> 
> Some CD writers are apparently able to release the bus while
> blanking, allowing use of the bus by other devices.  The 'immed' flag
> tries to use this feature.  fork() has nothing to do with it--he's
> talking about the IDE command, not the cdrecord program.

I just thought about fork() as Alan (surely and others) told the IDE bus cannot
run several commands at a time. So fork() was the only left-over I could think
of. I didn't know some devices can kinda 'detach' themselves as long as the
blank is going on...

Things are clear now. OK, more clear. Not clear. ;)

Marc

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-11 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-27 16:37 CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-29 11:01 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 11:15   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 11:28     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 15:24     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-05 12:03       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 16:29         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-06 17:17           ` René Rebe
2006-02-06 18:02           ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 11:26   ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 20:41     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 20:50       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 21:28         ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:11           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 16:31             ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:35               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:08                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:14                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:30                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:37                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:49                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 20:22                         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-31 10:17                         ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-01-30 20:24                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-31 10:47                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 11:22                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01  0:15                         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01  7:45                         ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-01 16:41                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 23:55         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:06           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 15:25     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:09       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:15         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 23:26           ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-01 15:51             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-31  1:43   ` Patrick McFarland
2006-01-31  1:47     ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 David S. Miller
2006-01-31 11:13       ` Gerhard Mack
2006-01-31 11:18         ` David S. Miller
2006-02-01  0:28           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:12             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 15:25               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01 16:32                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 16:24                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 16:29             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 18:37               ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-03 12:58                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:15                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-03 16:43                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:30                   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-02-03 19:27                   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01  4:49           ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01  7:56             ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-01 16:42               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02  0:30                 ` Kurt Wall
2006-02-01 11:33             ` Rene Herman
2006-02-01 16:21               ` Jon Agirre
2006-02-02 16:35               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 23:15                 ` Peter Chubb
2006-02-07  5:00                   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01 16:36             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 17:01               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 19:17             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-31 16:46         ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 14:15       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
     [not found]     ` <515e525f0601302205h4a845f36u12b946515759239a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-01-31  6:46       ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31  8:55     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-01  0:25     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-02 16:45       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 17:58 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 19:19   ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 19:39     ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 20:12       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 21:00         ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 21:00     ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 21:26       ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 21:35         ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-11 15:16         ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-11 15:25           ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-11 15:35             ` Doug McNaught
2006-02-11 15:44               ` Marc Koschewski [this message]
2006-02-10 23:23       ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-10 23:41         ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 23:50           ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Doug McNaught
2006-02-10 23:56           ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-11  1:03       ` hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)
2006-02-11  1:08         ` Marc Koschewski

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