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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
	ajwade@cpe001346162bf9-cm0011ae8cd564.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Device enumeration (was Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest))
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:18:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602142218.04158.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060215005439.GB18326@kroah.com>

On Tuesday 14 February 2006 7:54 pm, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 07:24:22PM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
> > I plan to start objecting earlier in future next time they propose to
> > break us for no readily apparent reason.
>
> Please do.

I will.  I'm not complaining to you about failure to provide timely feedback.  
(I fell behind on the list again...)

> That was because we needed a local copy of libsysfs due to linking
> against klibc.  Also because we needed to fix up libsysfs to actually
> work for our needs :)
>
> Anyway, we've now dropped libsysfs entirely, replacing it with 200 lines
> of code that is much faster and more flexible.

Yup.

> libsysfs dried up and blew away when IBM abandonded it and stoped
> funding the developers who were working on it.  Projects need active
> developers, something that IBM was not willing to provide for this one,
> for whatever reason...

I'm still not sure why it existed in the first place.  Oh well.

> > If mdev accomplishes nothing else, we can poke Linus and go "no fair,
> > this was exported to userspace and we depend on it", which udev hasn't.
>
> Again, please complain if we break anything, we want to know, and I'll
> do my best to keep it from happening.

Understood.  I'm caught up with the list again (ok, I skipped 3 months) and am 
going to try to stay that way...

> thanks,
>
> greg k-h

Rob
-- 
Never bet against the cheap plastic solution.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-15  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 177+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-25  3:23 CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Albert Cahalan
2006-01-25 14:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-25 14:45   ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 15:13     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-25 15:30       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 17:03         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 17:11           ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 17:18           ` grundig
2006-01-25 17:31             ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 18:22               ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-25 18:25                 ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-25 23:14                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26  1:13                     ` grundig
2006-01-26  8:23                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 13:56                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 18:47                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-30 21:58                           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-26 13:41                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26  0:36                 ` Nix
2006-01-26 13:39                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 21:06                   ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found]                     ` <20060210184241.35332e78.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-02-10 23:42                       ` sean
2006-02-10 23:51                     ` Christian Neumair
2006-02-13 13:24                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 13:55                         ` Martin Mares
2006-02-13 15:17                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-18 13:47                             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-19  1:10                               ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-19  9:20                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-20  1:53                                   ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-20 16:41                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 18:40                                       ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-21 10:08                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21 10:20                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-21  4:11                                       ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-21 10:36                                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-24 19:46                                           ` Christian Neumair
2006-02-27 11:32                                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 16:05                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-20 18:53                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-20 22:30                                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-02-21  8:32                                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-21 10:19                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-21 10:23                                     ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-13 14:07                         ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 15:26                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:42                             ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-13 16:43                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 17:27                           ` Luke-Jr
2006-02-14  8:11                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14  0:01                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 13:59                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-10 23:56                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-12 12:04                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-12 16:46                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-12 21:14                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-12 21:49                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-13  6:24                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 16:49                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-13 17:50                                 ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 19:53                                   ` Device enumeration (was Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest)) Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14  5:23                                     ` Andrew James Wade
2006-02-14 10:40                                       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 22:24                                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-14 23:00                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 23:45                                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-15 15:01                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 22:32                                         ` Rob Landley
2006-02-14 23:17                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15  0:24                                             ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15  0:54                                               ` Greg KH
2006-02-15  3:18                                                 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2006-02-15 16:55                                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15 18:19                                                 ` Rob Landley
2006-02-14 23:32                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15  1:50                                             ` Rob Landley
2006-02-14 23:47                                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-15  2:07                                             ` Rob Landley
2006-02-15 13:42                                         ` Andrew James Wade
2006-02-15 14:54                                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 11:53                                     ` Michael Tokarev
2006-02-13  5:01                       ` CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-13  6:21                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-13  8:05                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-13 17:51                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 18:03                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-13 19:09                                 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-17 21:35                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-18  0:02                                     ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-18 16:56                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-19  0:29                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-18  0:35                                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-18 12:06                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-18 13:37                                       ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-02-18 13:52                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-19 12:04                                           ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-18 17:15                                       ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-19  0:41                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-19  5:44                                           ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-19  9:27                                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-27 20:23                                             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-19 18:50                                         ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-18 18:36                                       ` Chris Adams
2006-02-19  1:05                                         ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-27 20:24                                         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-27 21:21                                           ` Chris Adams
2006-02-27 21:47                                             ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-27 22:30                                               ` Peter Gordon
2006-02-27 22:24                                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-28  0:44                                                   ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-13 13:26                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 15:49                         ` Greg KH
2006-02-14 18:59                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 19:53                             ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 19:58                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 20:25                                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 22:35                                 ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 22:32                             ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 18:59                           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 19:01                           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-14 22:33                             ` Nix
2006-02-15 15:44                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-15 16:40                             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-15 17:07                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-13 22:14                         ` Nix
2006-02-14  0:03                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14  0:32                             ` Nix
2006-02-14  9:22                           ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-14 18:09                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:41                               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-17 15:36                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 11:27                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 22:30                             ` Greg KH
2006-02-15  0:43                               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-15  5:20                                 ` Greg KH
2006-02-16 12:01                                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-16 16:51                                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-16 18:03                                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-14 22:40                             ` Nix
2006-02-16 12:09                               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-16 12:36                                 ` Martin Mares
2006-02-17  0:38                                   ` Nix
     [not found]                                   ` <43F746B8.6080607@tmr.com>
2006-02-18 21:04                                     ` Martin Mares
2006-02-18 22:00                                       ` Ondrej Zary
2006-02-16 12:55                                 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-13 12:11                     ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]                       ` <515e525f0602130446s1091f09ande10910f65a0f5f0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-13 15:12                         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-13 16:40                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-13 23:24                           ` D. Hazelton
2006-02-14 13:55                             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-14 21:59                               ` D. Hazelton
     [not found]                                 ` <43F74884.50904@tmr.com>
2006-02-18 20:00                                   ` Nix
2006-01-26 10:11                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 19:04               ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-26  9:38             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26  9:45               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 13:58                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 14:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-26 14:32                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 15:16                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-26 16:04                       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-26 15:38               ` grundig
2006-01-25 19:00           ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-26 10:25             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 10:56               ` Tomasz Torcz
2006-01-26 14:11                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-25 22:01         ` jerome lacoste
2006-01-26 12:13           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 12:39             ` Martin Mares
2006-01-26 14:14               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-26 20:42         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-27  8:00           ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-30 22:52             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-31  2:04               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-16 16:20                 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-16 17:45                   ` Olivier Galibert
2006-01-25 17:10       ` are added/removed - which

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