From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
David Singleton <dsingleton@mvista.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/5] lightweight robust futexes: -V1
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:42:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200602151942.20494.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43F36A00.602@redhat.com>
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 18:50, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> Andi Kleen wrote:
> > e.g. you could add a new VMA flag that says "when one user
> > of this dies unexpectedly by a signal kill all"
>
> "kill all"?
It would solve the problem statement given by Ingo in the rationale
for this kernel patch - cleaning up after a hanging yum.
If there are any other problems this is intended to solve then they
should be stated in the rationale.
> > And what happens if the patch is rejected? I don't really think you
> > can force patches in this way ("do it or I break glibc")
>
> Nothing which relies on the syscalls goes into cvs unless the kernel
> side is first committed. I never do this.
Great we agree on that then.
> The list being corrupted means that the mutexes are corrupted. In which
> case the application would crash anyway.
I'm not concerned about the application, just about the kernel.
> As for the "endless loop". You didn't read the code, it seems. There
> are two mechanisms to prevent this: the list is destroyed when the
> individual elements are handled and there is an upper limit on the
> number of robust mutexes which can be registered. The limit is
> ridiculously high so it'll no problem for correct programs and it also
> will eliminate run-away list following code.
Ok good that's handled. How about long blocking on swapped out pages
in exit?
You would need a SO_LINGER I guess, but implementing that would be
fairly nasty.
I think the "kill all" approach would be much simpler.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-15 18:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-15 15:17 [patch 0/5] lightweight robust futexes: -V1 Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 17:35 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-15 17:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-02-15 18:42 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-02-15 19:49 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-02-15 20:02 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-15 20:13 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-02-15 20:25 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-15 20:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 20:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 19:05 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-15 19:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-15 19:13 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-15 21:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-16 15:43 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-15 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-15 22:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-17 21:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-16 3:57 ` Darren Hart
2006-02-16 14:58 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-16 17:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-16 19:04 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-17 9:09 ` Avi Kivity
2006-02-17 19:55 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-17 20:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
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