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From: Sasha Khapyorsky <sashakh@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: s.schmidt@avm.de, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, kkeil@suse.de,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	opensuse-factory@opensuse.org,
	libusb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: 2.6.16 serious consequences / GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL / USB drivers of major vendor excluded
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 05:11:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060220031130.GA9929@khap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0602191158410.12662@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On 12:02 Sun 19 Feb     , Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> > > differences between AVM and other devices and the difficulties regarding a
> > > possible move towards user mode.
> > >
> > > The user space does not ensure the reliability of time critical analog
> > > services like Fax G3 or analog modem emulations. This quality of service
> > > can only be guaranteed within the kernel space.
> >
> > Soft modems may work pretty well in userspace - slmodem is example.
> >
> > Real-time requirement for V.34 is 40ms response time and only once during
> > the session when echo canceller parameters are negotiatiated (so you may
> > decrease "buffer size" before and increase after - there are enouph
> > silence places for such manipulations). Fax itself does not require any
> > "realtime" AFAIK, other place is almost unused today V.32 - 26ms, also
> > for echo canceller setup.
> >
> 
> Disclaimer:  This is in no way a push to get the -rt patch into mainline
> at the moment.  The patch is still young and is not ready yet.

Hmm, it was not about -rt patch - 40 millisecond response time is
realistic for userspace even without -rt patch. There is no guarantee,
but in practice this may work very well and keep low percents of failures
(much lower than permitted by standards).

Sasha.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-20  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200601200904.00389.dazzle.digital@gmail.com>
2006-02-03 16:24 ` 2.6.16 serious consequences / GPL_EXPORT_SYMBOL / USB drivers of major vendor excluded s.schmidt
2006-02-03 22:50   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-04 16:27   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-02-04 19:24     ` Jan Kiszka
2006-02-09 15:52       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-05 20:53   ` Greg KH
2006-02-16 14:24     ` Re[2]: " s.schmidt
2006-02-16 14:35       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-16 19:49       ` [opensuse-factory] " Robert Schiele
2006-02-16 22:09       ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2006-02-16 22:51         ` Karsten Keil
2006-02-17 23:00       ` Greg KH
2006-02-19 14:34         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2006-03-06 12:47         ` Re[2]: " s.schmidt
2006-03-06 17:05           ` Greg KH
2006-03-06 21:09             ` [Libusb-devel] " Michael Bender
2006-03-06 22:02               ` Greg KH
2006-03-07  7:42           ` [opensuse-factory] Re[2]: " Silviu Marin-Caea
2006-03-07 22:10             ` Lee Revell
2006-03-07 23:37               ` Matthias Andree
2006-03-08  0:55                 ` Lee Revell
2006-03-08  1:39                   ` Douglas McNaught
2006-02-18  2:42       ` Lee Revell
2006-02-19  4:57       ` Sasha Khapyorsky
2006-02-19 17:02         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-20  3:11           ` Sasha Khapyorsky [this message]
2006-02-20  6:58             ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-19 16:25       ` Re[2]: " Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-19  3:09     ` Anton Blanchard
2006-02-19  3:20       ` Greg KH

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