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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Patrick Mochel <mochel@digitalimplant.org>
Cc: greg@kroah.com, torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-pm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 3/5] [pm] Respect the actual device power states in sysfs interface
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:10:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060220181040.GI19156@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0602201006230.12708-100000@monsoon.he.net>

On Po 20-02-06 10:08:36, Patrick Mochel wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Pavel Machek wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > > > > > Compatibility is already restored.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, the interface is currently broken. The driver core does not
> > > > > dictate
> > > >
> > > > There were two different interfaces, one accepted 0 and 2, everything
> > > > else was invalid, and second accepted 0, 1, 2, 3.
> > > >
> > > > If you enter D2 on echo 2, you are breaking compatibility with 2.6.15
> > > > or something like that.
> > >
> > > I don't see how this is true. If a process writes "2" to a PCI device's
> > > state file, what else are sane things to do?
> >
> > In some kernel version (2.6.15, iirc), device entered D3 if you wrote
> > "2" to state file, and there are programs out there that depend on
> > it.
> 
> Like what?

Search archives. Some PCMCIA, IIRC.

> > > You dropped the fundamental point, and I don't understand why you disagree
> > > with it - the driver core should not be dictating policy to the downstream
> > > drivers. It is currently doing this by filtering the power state that is
> > > passed in via the "state" file.
> >
> > That's best we can do to stay compatible. Please introduce new file,
> > and make states string-based.
> 
> You are still overlooking the point - the core should not be filtering the
> values. It currently is, but it's trivial to fix. What is your issue with
> that?

That you are breaking compatibility in middle of 2.6 series. And very
close to 2.6.16 at that.
								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-20 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-18  2:03 [PATCH 3/5] [pm] Respect the actual device power states in sysfs interface Patrick Mochel
2006-02-18 15:55 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2006-02-19 23:59   ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-20  0:09     ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20  0:17       ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-20  0:20         ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20  0:36           ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-20  0:41             ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20 17:55               ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-20 17:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20 18:08                   ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-20 18:10                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-02-20  0:46     ` Greg KH
2006-02-20 17:58       ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-20 22:04         ` Greg KH
2006-02-21  1:09           ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-21 10:57             ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-21 11:12               ` Patrick Mochel
2006-02-21 11:25                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-27 19:06                   ` Patrick Mochel

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