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From: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	sekharan@us.ibm.com,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Avoid calling down_read and down_write during startup
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:44:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060224164415.GA7999@kvack.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0602241135450.5177-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 11:44:23AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> In that case you should be worried not about acquiring and releasing the 
> rwsem at the beginning and end of blocking_notifier_call_chain; you should 
> be worried about all the RCU serialization in the core 
> notifier_call_chain routine.

RCU doesn't synchronize readers.

> The atomic chains are a different matter.  The ones that don't run in NMI 
> context could use an rw-spinlock for protection, allowing them also to 
> avoid memory barriers while going through the list.  The notifier chains 
> that do run in NMI don't have this luxury.  Fortunately I don't think 
> there are very many of them.

A read lock is a memory barrier.  That's why I'm opposed to using non-rcu 
style locking for them.

		-ben
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-24 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-21 15:54 [PATCH] Register atomic_notifiers in atomic context Alan Stern
2006-02-21 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 16:08   ` Alan Stern
2006-02-22 16:12     ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-23  2:26     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-23 17:15       ` Alan Stern
2006-02-23 19:03         ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-23 22:28           ` [PATCH] The idle notifier chain should be atomic Alan Stern
2006-02-23 23:49             ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24  3:24               ` Alan Stern
2006-02-24  3:27                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24  4:04                   ` Alan Stern
2006-02-23 22:36           ` [PATCH] Avoid calling down_read and down_write during startup Alan Stern
2006-02-23 22:37             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24  0:16               ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-24  3:18                 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-24 14:40                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24 15:04                     ` Alan Stern
2006-02-24 15:15                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24 16:44                         ` Alan Stern
2006-02-24 16:44                           ` Benjamin LaHaise [this message]
2006-02-24 17:59                             ` Alan Stern
2006-02-24 18:37                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24 20:21                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-24 14:39                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24 15:03                   ` Alan Stern

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