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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Samuel Masham <samuel.masham@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:59:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060227125951.GA11497@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060225220737.GE3674@stusta.de>

On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 11:07:38PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 11:01:03PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > >> >> You said that INPUT was not a driver, right. But without it, a keyboard 
> > >> >> won't work, will it?
> > >> >
> > >> >Yes, you do need INPUT for a keyboard.
> > >> >No, INPUT alone does not support any hardware - that's the job of the 
> > >> >drivers depending on INPUT.
> > >> >No, I don't understand what your question wants to achieve.
> > >> 
> > >> Let's look at another subsystem:
> > >> "Yes, you do need SND for a soundcard."
> > >> "No, SND alone does not support any hardware - that's the job of the drivers
> > >> depending on SND."
> > >> Should SND also be made a bool like INPUT?
> > >
> > >No, SND=m is also possible in the EMBEDDED=n case.
> > >
> > This example was to show that INPUT should not be y-only. Except if you plan to
> > make SND y-only too.
> 
> 
> Please try to understand the following:
> - INPUT=m is already only available if EMBEDDED=y

That is because too many people were making the mistake of saying 'N' to
INPUT. EMBEDDED here was really chosen while meaning EXPERT. This has
nothing to do with the kernel image size - the size of input.c is pretty
minimal anyway.

> - as I did already explain, EMBEDDED=y and MODULES=y at the same 
>   time doesn't make much  sense

It doesn't. But in the same way making INPUT depend on EMBEDDED doesn't
make sense if you intend EMBEDDED to truly mean what it says.

> As I already said, SND=m is completely different since it is also 
> available in the (common) EMBEDDED=n case.
 
It's not. Input, like sound, scsi, usb, firewire .... is just another
subsystem in the kernel. The kernel can live without it, and it used to
work just fine when all modular, including autoloading.

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
Director SuSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-27 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-14 15:22 [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 18:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 23:47     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17 15:56     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-17 16:38       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-20  3:33         ` Samuel Masham
2006-02-20 13:28           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  1:34             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22  2:31               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  2:44                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22  3:10                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  3:20                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-23 19:59                       ` Status of X86_P4_CLOCKMOD? Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 20:41                         ` Dave Jones
2006-02-23 23:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 23:33                             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 23:55                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24  2:39                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-24  2:42                                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 17:33                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25  1:57                           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25  4:24                             ` Dave Jones
2006-02-25 12:53                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-27 21:17                                 ` Wes Felter
2006-02-25  4:27                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 12:53                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 13:28                                 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 11:12                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-26 20:39                                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-26 20:55                                     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 23:37                                       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25 13:36                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 13:05                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-28 19:46                           ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:09                             ` Dave Jones
2006-02-28 20:19                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 20:47                               ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:57                                 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:26                                   ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 21:34                                     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:39                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 22:22                                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-22 12:01                     ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22 12:15                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 18:09                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-25 11:58                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-02-25 12:46                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 14:22                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 14:50                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 15:29                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 15:40                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:01                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 22:07                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:23                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-26 18:13                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-27  7:11                                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-02-27 12:59                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2006-02-25 14:57                       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-15  6:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-16 23:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17  1:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-24 18:19 [PATCH] Export symbols so CONFIG_INPUT works as a module Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-24 23:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-24 23:14   ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-25  5:04     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-03 22:36       ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Adrian Bunk

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