From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@intel.linux.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:30:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060228223050.GA5831@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060223124152.GA4008@elte.hu>
On Čt 23-02-06 13:41:53, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 23 February 2006 10:29, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > This patch adds an entry for a cleared page to the task struct. The main
> > > purpose of this patch is to be able to pre-allocate and clear a page in a
> > > pagefault scenario before taking any locks (esp mmap_sem),
> > > opportunistically. Allocating+clearing a page is an very expensive
> > > operation that currently increases lock hold times quite bit (in a threaded
> > > environment that allocates/use/frees memory on a regular basis, this leads
> > > to contention).
> > >
> > > This is probably the most controversial patch of the 3, since there is
> > > a potential to take up 1 page per thread in this cache. In practice it's
> > > not as bad as it sounds (a large degree of the pagefaults are anonymous
> > > and thus immediately use up the page). One could argue "let the VM reap
> > > these" but that has a few downsides; it increases locking needs but more,
> > > clearing a page is relatively expensive, if the VM reaps the page again
> > > in case it wasn't needed, the work was just wasted.
> >
> > Looks like an incredible bad hack. What workload was that again where
> > it helps? And how much? I think before we can consider adding that
> > ugly code you would a far better rationale.
>
> yes, the patch is controversial technologically, and Arjan pointed it
> out above. This is nothing new - and Arjan probably submitted this to
> lkml so that he can get contructive feedback.
Actually, I think I have to back Andi here. This looked like patch for
inclusion (signed-off, cc-ed Andrew). And yes, Arjan pointed out that
it is controversial, but the way patch was worded I could imagine
Andrew merging it...
Pavel
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-23 9:17 [Patch 0/3] threaded mmap tweaks Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 9:29 ` [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 9:41 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 12:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-23 13:06 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 13:15 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-23 13:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-24 6:36 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24 6:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-24 7:01 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24 12:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 12:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-02-24 9:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-24 9:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 15:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-02-25 16:48 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-25 17:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-28 22:30 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-02-23 18:25 ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-23 9:30 ` [Patch 2/3] fast VMA recycling Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 9:42 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 9:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 10:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 10:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 11:00 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 11:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 11:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 18:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-24 19:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 19:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-23 16:37 ` Benjamin LaHaise
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-23 20:02 [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages Chuck Ebbert
2006-02-23 21:10 Chuck Ebbert
2006-02-23 21:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
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