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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@intel.linux.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:30:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060228223050.GA5831@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060223124152.GA4008@elte.hu>

On Čt 23-02-06 13:41:53, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 23 February 2006 10:29, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > This patch adds an entry for a cleared page to the task struct. The main
> > > purpose of this patch is to be able to pre-allocate and clear a page in a
> > > pagefault scenario before taking any locks (esp mmap_sem),
> > > opportunistically. Allocating+clearing a page is an very expensive 
> > > operation that currently increases lock hold times quite bit (in a threaded 
> > > environment that allocates/use/frees memory on a regular basis, this leads
> > > to contention).
> > > 
> > > This is probably the most controversial patch of the 3, since there is
> > > a potential to take up 1 page per thread in this cache. In practice it's
> > > not as bad as it sounds (a large degree of the pagefaults are anonymous 
> > > and thus immediately use up the page). One could argue "let the VM reap
> > > these" but that has a few downsides; it increases locking needs but more,
> > > clearing a page is relatively expensive, if the VM reaps the page again
> > > in case it wasn't needed, the work was just wasted.
> > 
> > Looks like an incredible bad hack. What workload was that again where 
> > it helps? And how much? I think before we can consider adding that 
> > ugly code you would a far better rationale.
> 
> yes, the patch is controversial technologically, and Arjan pointed it 
> out above. This is nothing new - and Arjan probably submitted this to 
> lkml so that he can get contructive feedback.

Actually, I think I have to back Andi here. This looked like patch for
inclusion (signed-off, cc-ed Andrew). And yes, Arjan pointed out that
it is controversial, but the way patch was worded I could imagine
Andrew merging it...
								Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-28 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-23  9:17 [Patch 0/3] threaded mmap tweaks Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23  9:29 ` [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23  9:41   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 12:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-23 13:06       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 13:15         ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-23 13:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-24  6:36             ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24  6:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-24  7:01                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24 12:33                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 12:55                     ` Hugh Dickins
2006-02-24  9:15               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-24  9:26                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-24 12:27                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 15:31                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2006-02-25 16:48                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-25 17:22                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-28 22:30       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-02-23 18:25   ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-23  9:30 ` [Patch 2/3] fast VMA recycling Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23  9:42   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23  9:48     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 10:05       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 10:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 11:00           ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 11:22             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 11:57               ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 18:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-24 19:05         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 19:09           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-23 16:37   ` Benjamin LaHaise
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-23 20:02 [Patch 3/3] prepopulate/cache cleared pages Chuck Ebbert
2006-02-23 21:10 Chuck Ebbert
2006-02-23 21:18 ` Arjan van de Ven

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