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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
	gregkh@suse.de,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add kernel<->userspace ABI stability documentation
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:56:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060301205647.GA16331@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1141198077.3866.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 08:27:52AM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 16:23 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:39:29PM +0300, Nikita Danilov wrote:
> > > Greg KH writes:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > >  > +
> > >  > +  stable/
> > >  > +	This directory documents the interfaces that have determined to
> > >  > +	be stable.  Userspace programs are free to use these interfaces
> > >  > +	with no restrictions, and backward compatibility for them will
> > >  > +	be guaranteed for at least 2 years.  Most simple interfaces
> > >  > +	(like syscalls) are expected to never change and always be
> > >  > +	available.
> > > 
> > > What about separating "stable" ("guaranteed for at least 2 years") and
> > > "standard" (core unix interface is not going to change ever)?
> > 
> > Why?  Would that mean that the POSIX-like syscalls would only be in
> > "standard"?  What else would you think would be in that category?
> 
> that sounds wrong. If you want posix behavior, use glibc. Not the kernel
> directly. It's that simple. The kernel tends to follow posix mostly, to
> allow glibc to do this job without too much hoops, but it's glibc that
> provides the final posix API to the application. And it should be that
> way.

Yes, sorry, that is much more correct.

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-01 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-27 19:01 [RFC] Add kernel<->userspace ABI stability documentation Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 19:11   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:17     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 19:22 ` Kumar Gala
2006-02-27 19:30   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:31 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 19:44   ` Greg KH
2006-03-01 13:53     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-03-01 14:10       ` Gabor Gombas
2006-03-01 14:35         ` Jes Sorensen
2006-03-01 16:30         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-02-27 20:06   ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-27 19:35 ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-27 19:49   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:57     ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-27 20:00       ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:13         ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-28  0:26           ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:36 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-27 19:46   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:01     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-27 20:13       ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:22         ` John W. Linville
2006-02-27 22:00           ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:10     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 22:58       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-27 20:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-27 21:04       ` Al Viro
2006-02-27 23:33         ` Nicholas Miell
2006-02-27 23:45       ` Greg KH
2006-02-28  1:52         ` Jason Lunz
2006-02-28  6:32         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-28  6:41           ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01  0:34           ` Greg KH
2006-03-01  1:17             ` Nicholas Miell
2006-03-02  4:24               ` Greg KH
2006-03-05 16:17                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-05 23:23                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06  0:12                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-06  0:39                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06  2:15                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-07  3:56                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 19:52 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-02-27 19:57   ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:05     ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-02-27 20:12       ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:15         ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 22:56           ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-28  0:11             ` Greg KH
2006-02-27 20:01 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-01  0:21   ` Greg KH
2006-02-28 11:39 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-03-01  0:23   ` Greg KH
2006-03-01  7:27     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-01 20:56       ` Greg KH [this message]
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2006-03-07 14:44 Al Boldi
2006-03-07 15:21 ` Josh Boyer

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