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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: clameter@engr.sgi.com, dgc@sgi.com, steiner@sgi.com,
	Simon.Derr@bull.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	clameter@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/02] cpuset memory spread slab cache filesys
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:59:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603012159.42273.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060301125358.29261ad9.pj@sgi.com>

On Wednesday 01 March 2006 21:53, Paul Jackson wrote:
> > > I spent much time minimizing that overhead over the last few months, as
> > > a direct result of your recommendation to do so.
> > 
> > IIRC my recommendation only optimized the case of nobody using
> > cpuset if I remember correctly. 
> 
> As a result of your general concern with the performance impact
> of cpusets on the page allocation code path, I optimized each
> element of it, not just the one case covered by your specific
> recommendation.

Thanks for doing that work then.
 

> 
> > Using a single cpuset would already drop into the slow path, right?
> 
> No - having a single cpuset is the fastest path.  All tasks
> are in that root cpuset in that case, and all nodes allowed.

Faster than no cpuset?

> 
> > I'm not sure I want to get into the business
> > of explaining all the distributions how to set up cpusets ..
> 
> Good grief - I already quoted the 3 lines of boottime init script it
> would take - this can't require that much explaining, and your new
> sysctl can't get by with much less:

It would just be on by default - no user space configuration needed.

> And even from the perspective of maintaining Linux, this should be on
> autopilot.  Every file systems inode cache is marked, and if we do
> nothing, as more file system types are invented for Linux, they will
> predictably cut+paste the inode slab cache setup from an existing file
> system, and "just get it right."

If something is a good default it shouldn't need user space
configuration at all imho. Only the "weird" cases should.

> I just don't see that it serves any purpose, and I suspect that
> misunderstandings of the performance impact of cpusets are the
> primary source of motivation for such a sysctl.

No that was just one. The other was having good defaults
even on lightweight kernels.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-01 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-27  7:02 [PATCH 01/02] cpuset memory spread slab cache filesys Paul Jackson
2006-02-27  7:02 ` [PATCH 02/02] cpuset memory spread slab cache format Paul Jackson
2006-02-27 19:34 ` [PATCH 01/02] cpuset memory spread slab cache filesys Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 20:16   ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-27 20:36     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-27 20:49       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 20:56         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-27 21:02           ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 22:14             ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-27 22:39               ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 23:13                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-02-28  1:56                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-28 17:13                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-01 18:27                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-03-01 18:34                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-01 18:38                           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-01 18:58                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-03-01 19:21                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-01 20:53                               ` Paul Jackson
2006-03-01 20:59                                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-03-01 21:19                                   ` Paul Jackson
2006-03-01 21:21                                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-01 22:20                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-01 22:52                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-03-02  1:57                                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02 14:38                                           ` Christoph Lameter

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