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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pcmcia: add another ide-cs CF card id
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:24:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060302122409.GD14017@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4406E1C7.7020908@pobox.com>

On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 07:15:03AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >Sure I can it being nice to CC linux-ide ANYWAY, but, to be honest,
> >while I see that is important for changes to the driver that change the
> >structure of it and how it interacts with the IDE layer, I fail to see
> >the hard required reason for that for just adding a *PCMCIA* ID.
> >
> >I think Jeff is a bit overreacting in this case.
> 
> About a quarter of the time when non-netdev maintainers add IDs, through 
> the magic of merges, we've wound up with duplicate IDs in the driver. 
> I've snipped several duplicate IDs from tulip and other net drivers over 
> the years.
> 
> Further, in the past Brodo has _already_ been asked to CC relevant 
> maintainers and lists -- or at least LKML -- with his patches.  He has 
> established a pattern of lacking time to add CC's to his emails; it 
> wasn't just this incident.
> 
> Where is the peer review?

I think it's fairly safe and obvious to say that Dominik is the peer
review for these tables - he _is_ the PCMCIA maintainer, he _is_
arguably the maintainer for the ide-cs driver, he _is_ the person
who invented these tables, he _is_ the one taking patches from people
to add IDs, he _is_ the one reviewing such patches.

If you want to know what's going on in PCMCIA land, subscribe to
linux-pcmcia.  In the same way that if you want to know what's going
in in IDE land, you subscribe to linux-ide, or PCI land linux-pci,
SCSI land linux-scsi, network land netdev.

Using your argument (which seems to be demanding that any patch to
any IDE driver no matter how trivial must be on linux-ide) that a patch
to a PCI network device driver must be copied to linux-pci and netdev
even though it may not touch the PCI specific code.

What about a cardbus network card?  Should any patch no matter how
trivial be sent to netdev, linux-pci and linux-pcmcia - all those three
mailing lists are within the "sphere of influence" of any patch to that
driver.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 Serial core

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-02 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200603012259.k21MxBXC013582@hera.kernel.org>
2006-03-01 23:36 ` [PATCH] pcmcia: add another ide-cs CF card id Jeff Garzik
     [not found]   ` <20060302075004.GA17789@isilmar.linta.de>
2006-03-02 11:17     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02 11:31       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-02 11:42         ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-02 11:56           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-02 12:07           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-02 12:15             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02 12:24               ` Russell King [this message]
2006-03-02 12:38                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02 13:02                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-02 12:27               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-02 12:40                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02 13:00               ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-03-02 13:06                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-02 11:44         ` Jeff Garzik

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