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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Michael Monnerie <m.monnerie@zmi.at>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PCI-DMA: Out of IOMMU space on x86-64 (Athlon64x2), with solution
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:33:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060302133322.GQ4329@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200603021433.17235.ak@suse.de>

On Thu, Mar 02 2006, Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> > - We have in-driver pending stuff, so we can just retry the operation
> >   later when some of that completes.
> > - We are unlucky enough that someone else holds all the resources, we
> >   have nothing to wait for.
> 
> I suspect the second is more common - typically the problem seems to happen
> when people have multiple devices active that need the IOMMU in parallel.

Hmm I would have guessed the first is way more common, the device/driver
consuming lots of iommu space would be the most likely to run into
IOMMU-OOM.

> > The first case is easy, just punt and retry when some of your io
> > completes. The last case requires a way to wait on the iommu as you
> > describe, which the driver needs to do somewhere safe.
> 
> Also where to put the wait queue? The IOMMU code only 
> sees the bus devices not the queues and I'm not sure the low level
> devices would be the right place to put it because it wouldn't handle
> the case of a queue having multiple devices well and in general
> would probably violate the layers.
> 
> Maybe just using a global one? The situation should be rare anyways.
> Would just need a way to detect this case to avoid bouncing the cache lines
> of the wait queue in the normal case. Perhaps a simple global counter
> would be good enough for that.

I was thinking just a global one, we are in soft error handling anyways
so should be ok. I don't think you would need to dirty any global cache
line unless you actually need to wake waiters.

> e.g. you increase the counter and then the IOMMU code just does a wakeup
> on a global waitqueue every time it frees space.
> 
> Hrm one problem I guess is that you need to make sure there are no 
> races between detection of the low space condition and the increasing
> of the counter, but some lazy locking and rechecking might be able 
> to cure that.

I think so, yes.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-02 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-01 23:23 PCI-DMA: Out of IOMMU space on x86-64 (Athlon64x2), with solution Michael Monnerie
2006-03-02  1:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02  9:59   ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-03  8:16   ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-03-03 11:00     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] ` <200603021316.38077.ak@suse.de>
     [not found]   ` <4406E226.4050806@pobox.com>
2006-03-02 12:26     ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02 12:31       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-02 12:33       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]   ` <20060302123033.GL4329@suse.de>
2006-03-02 13:09     ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02 13:10       ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-02 13:33         ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02 13:33           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-03-02 13:46             ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02 13:49               ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-02 13:58                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02 14:14                   ` Jens Axboe
2006-03-02 14:35                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-02 14:38                       ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-03 21:27 Allen Martin
2006-03-03 22:12 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-03 22:23   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-03 22:32     ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-04  6:34     ` Michael Monnerie
     [not found] <5Mq18-1Na-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <5MqNc-2Y5-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5MqX4-39H-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <5MyAS-5zh-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-03-07  0:15       ` Robert Hancock
2006-04-02  7:51         ` Joerg Bashir
2006-04-02  8:00           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-04-02  8:24             ` Joerg Bashir
2006-04-02 11:16           ` Andi Kleen

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