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From: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] leave APIC code inactive by default on i386
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:17:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060306171747.GN21445@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060306125018.GA1673@elf.ucw.cz>

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 01:50:18PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:

 > > The number of systems that actually *need* APIC enabled are in the
 > > vast (though growing) minority, so it's unlikely that most newbies
 > > will hit this.  The problem is also the inverse of what you describe.
 > > Typically the distros have DMI lists of machines that *need* APIC
 > > to make it enabled by default so everything 'just works'.
 > 
 > Well, blacklisting "new" machines is a problem -- their number
 > grows. Would not it be better to blacklist machines broken by APIC
 > ("old" ones, presumably)?

It would.  Though some new machines also falsely advertise it as
working aparently.  I heard a report of a thinkpad going boom last week.

 > Is adding "noapic nolapic" to default command line a big problem?

For end-users, yes.  People want things to 'just work', not have
to find arcane commands to type in to make things work.

		Dave


-- 
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-06 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-20  1:20 [PATCH] leave APIC code inactive by default on i386 Darrick J. Wong
2006-01-20 14:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-01  3:57 ` Michael Ellerman
2006-03-01  4:33   ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01  5:10     ` Michael Ellerman
2006-03-01 13:38       ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01 13:52         ` Matthew Garrett
2006-03-01  6:36     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2006-03-01 13:39       ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01 21:29     ` Darrick J. Wong
2006-03-01 22:14       ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01 22:47         ` Darrick J. Wong
2006-03-01 22:51           ` Dave Jones
2006-03-01 23:29             ` Darrick J. Wong
2006-03-06 12:50     ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-06 17:17       ` Dave Jones [this message]
2006-03-06 17:41         ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-06 17:52           ` Dave Jones
2006-03-06 17:58             ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-06 18:17               ` Dave Jones
2006-03-06 19:05                 ` Darrick J. Wong

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