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From: Dan Aloni <da-x@monatomic.org>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	drepper@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Status of AIO
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 04:04:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060307020411.GA21626@localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060307013915.GU20768@kvack.org>

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 08:39:15PM -0500, Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 04:51:29PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote:
> > I think any such VM tricks need serious thought.  It has serious
> > consequences as far as cost especially on SMP.  Evgivny has some data
> > that shows this, and chapter 5 of Networking Algorithmics has a lot of
> > good analysis and paper references on this topic.
> 
> VM tricks do suck, so you just have to use the tricks that nobody else 
> is...  My thinking is to do something like the following: have a structure 
> to reference a set of pages.  When it is first created, it takes a reference 
> on the pages in question, and it is added to the vm_area_struct of the user 
> so that the vm can poke it for freeing when memory pressure occurs.  The 
> sk_buff dataref also has to have a pointer to the pageref added.  Now, the 
> trick to making it useful is as follows:
> 
> 	struct pageref {
> 		atomic_t	free_count;
> 		int		use_count;	/* protected by socket lock */
> 		...
> 		unsigned long	user_address;
> 		unsigned long	length;
> 		struct socket	*sock;		/* backref for VM */
> 		struct page	*pages[];
> 	};
[...]
> 
> It's probably easier to show this tx path with code that gets the details 
> right.

This somehow resembles the scatter-gatter lists already used in some 
subsystems such as the SCSI sg driver. 

BTW you have to make these pages Copy-On-Write before this procedure 
starts because you wouldn't want it to accidently fill the zero page, 
i.e. the VM will have to supply a unique set of pages otherwise it 
messes up.

-- 
Dan Aloni
da-x@monatomic.org, da-x@colinux.org, da-x@gmx.net, dan@xiv.co.il

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-07  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-06  6:24 Status of AIO Dan Aloni
2006-03-06 15:05 ` Phillip Susi
2006-03-06 21:18 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06 22:53   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-03-06 23:15     ` Phillip Susi
2006-03-08  7:09       ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-03-08 15:58         ` Phillip Susi
2006-03-06 23:33     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-07  0:24       ` David S. Miller
2006-03-07  0:42         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-07  0:51           ` David S. Miller
2006-03-07  1:39             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-07  2:04               ` Dan Aloni [this message]
2006-03-07  2:07                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-07  3:11                   ` David S. Miller
2006-03-07  7:33                   ` Dan Aloni
2006-03-07  3:06               ` David S. Miller
2006-03-07 16:35                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-07  1:34         ` Phillip Susi
2006-03-07  3:04           ` David S. Miller
2006-03-07  4:07             ` Phillip Susi
2006-03-07  6:02               ` David S. Miller
2006-03-07 16:06                 ` Phillip Susi
2006-03-07  1:30   ` Dan Aloni
2006-03-07  1:37     ` Nicholas Miell
2006-03-07  1:37     ` Phillip Susi
2006-03-07  1:40     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-03-06 23:18 ` Phillip Susi

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