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From: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
To: "linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)" <linux-os@analogic.com>
Cc: "Andreas Schwab" <schwab@suse.de>,
	"Stefan Seyfried" <seife@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, christiand59@web.de
Subject: Re: /dev/stderr gets unlinked 8]
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:07:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603161007.51237.vda@ilport.com.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0603150913540.12854@chaos.analogic.com>

On Wednesday 15 March 2006 16:23, linux-os (Dick Johnson) wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Denis Vlasenko wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:14, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> >> Stefan Seyfried <seife@suse.de> writes:
> >>
> >>> any good daemon closes stdout, stderr, stdin
> >>
> >> A real good daemon would redirect them to /dev/null.
> >
> > Yeah, yeah, let's first close stderr, and then proceed and
> > add some code to handle command line --log=file, and to do
> > logging to that file.
> >
> > Why good ol' fprintf(stderr,...) isn't enough? Why do you
> > want to complicate things?
> >
> > What's so hard in doing "daemon 2>/dev/null &" if you don't
> > want to save log?
> > --
> > vda
> 
> The daemon needs to have the standard input closed as well as
> any I/O connection to a possible terminal. Just closing
> standard input, allows a dup() in rogue code to recreate it.
> Basically, file-descriptors 0, 1, and 2, need to be USED and
> used for something else (like open /dev/null or open "/").
> That's how you prevent rogue code, inserted via overflow or
> other means, from obtaining control of your system.

... and everything described above is perfectly doable by
shell mechanisms (like redirections) prior to strting daemon, right?
--
vda

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-16  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-14 10:12 /dev/stderr gets unlinked 8] Denis Vlasenko
2006-03-14 13:07 ` Aurelien Degremont
2006-03-14 13:11   ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-03-14 13:11 ` Christian
2006-03-14 13:35   ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-03-15 11:02     ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-03-15 13:14       ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-15 13:34         ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-03-15 14:23           ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-03-16  8:07             ` Denis Vlasenko [this message]
2006-03-16 20:11         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-17  6:34           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-03-17 14:32             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-17 15:40               ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-03-15 13:30       ` Denis Vlasenko
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     [not found] ` <5QE55-6Td-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5R778-8fs-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]       ` <5RohF-7Oe-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <5Rpnz-ZJ-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-03-19  1:07           ` Bodo Eggert
2006-03-19 16:57             ` Joshua Hudson

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