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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
Subject: Re: [2.6.16-mm1 patch] throttling tree patches
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:56:59 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603242256.59795.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1143198964.7741.23.camel@homer>

On Friday 24 March 2006 22:16, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> This patch does various interactivity cleanups.

I have trouble with this patch. By your own admission this patch does 4 
different things which one patch shouldn't.

> 1.  Removes the barrier between kernel threads and user tasks wrt
> dynamic priority handling.

This is a bad idea. Subjecting a priority ceiling to kernel threads because 
they spend a long time idle is not the same as a user task that may be an 
idle bomb. Most kernel threads do sleep for extended periods and will always 
end up hitting this ceiling. That could lead to some difficult to understand 
latencies in scheduling of kernel threads, even if they are nice -5 because 
they'll expire very easily.

> 2.  Removes the priority barrier for IO.

Bad again. This caused the biggest detriment on interbench numbers and is by 
far the most palpable interactivity killer in linux. I/O hurts us lots and 
this change will be very noticeable.

> 3.  Treats TASK_INTERACTIVE as a transition point that all tasks must
> stop at prior to being promoted further.

Why? Makes no sense. You end up getting hiccups in the rise of priority of 
tasks instead of it happening smoothly with sleep.

> 4.  Moves division out of the fast path and into scheduler_tick().
> While doing so, tightens timeslice accounting, since it's free, and is
> the flip-side of the reason for having nanosecond sched_clock().

Seems fine.

Cheers,
Con

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-24 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-24 11:03 [2.6.16-mm1 patch] throttling tree patches Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 11:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 11:16   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 11:21     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 11:24       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 11:28         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 11:56           ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24 11:55         ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24 11:54       ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24 11:56     ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-03-24 12:21       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 12:34         ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24 13:02           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 13:52             ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24 14:10               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-24 11:38   ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-24 11:37 ` Con Kolivas
2006-03-25  0:25   ` Peter Williams
2006-03-25  5:06     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-03-25  6:18       ` [2.6.16-mm1 patch] ignore timewarps Mike Galbraith
2006-03-25  0:37 ` [2.6.16-mm1 patch] throttling tree patches Peter Williams
2006-03-25  5:11   ` Mike Galbraith

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