From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Mariusz Mazur <mmazur@kernel.pl>
Cc: llh-discuss@lists.pld-linux.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: State of userland headers
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:59:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603261559.41706.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200603261512.56996.mmazur@kernel.pl>
On Sunday 26 March 2006 8:12 am, Mariusz Mazur wrote:
> On Friday 24 March 2006 00:04, Rob Landley wrote:
> > You also don't want to run a libc built with newer headers than the
> > kernel you're running on, or it'll try to use stuff that isn't there.
> >
> > You're saying that the new kernel headers wouldn't be versioned using the
> > kernel's release numbers. How do we know what kernel version their
> > feature set matches then? (I'm confused. This happens easily...)
>
> That's a tradeoff. You either version the headers just like I did, meaning
> that a given version corresponds to a given kernel, but that means you
> can't release before all of the archs are fully updated (and not relying on
> a single person to do all of the updates is one of the points of the
> exercise; and with more people, one can have delays) or you're forced to
> figure out some other way to version the headers.
If somebody #includes <linux/version.h> from the new headers, and can
determine what kernel version it goes with for their platform from that (even
if the different platforms are out of sync), and said information also goes
in a README or release notes or some such, I'll live.
Rob
--
Never bet against the cheap plastic solution.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-26 20:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-14 15:19 [ANNOUNCE] linux-libc-headers dead Mariusz Mazur
2006-03-14 15:28 ` Ismail Donmez
2006-03-16 8:37 ` [llh-announce] " Nigel Kukard
2006-03-16 20:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-16 20:42 ` Dan Kegel
2006-03-17 7:56 ` DervishD
2006-03-23 17:11 ` State of userland headers Mariusz Mazur
2006-03-23 23:04 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-26 13:12 ` Mariusz Mazur
2006-03-26 20:59 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2006-03-24 18:51 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-24 21:23 ` Rob Landley
[not found] ` <878xqzpl8g.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix>
2006-03-24 22:46 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-24 23:01 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-25 6:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-28 20:17 ` Jim Gifford
2006-03-25 1:36 ` Jeff Dike
2006-03-25 6:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-25 16:03 ` Jeff Dike
2006-03-25 3:19 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-25 6:27 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 11:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] KABI example conversion and cleanup Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 11:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Create initial kernel ABI header infrastructure Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 12:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-26 12:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 12:59 ` Martin Mares
2006-03-26 13:14 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 15:38 ` Martin Mares
2006-03-26 16:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 14:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-26 15:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-29 22:26 ` Pavel Machek
2006-04-02 0:22 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-04-02 2:42 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-02 3:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-02 5:53 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-02 13:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-02 10:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-04-02 11:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 20:05 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-03-26 20:39 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 21:26 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-03-27 0:27 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 11:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] Generalize fd_set handling across architectures Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 12:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] KABI example conversion and cleanup Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 13:43 ` Nix
2006-03-26 12:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-26 12:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-26 12:34 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 13:22 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-03-26 13:29 ` Avi Kivity
2006-03-26 13:47 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 13:53 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-03-26 14:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 14:45 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2006-03-26 17:24 ` Avi Kivity
2006-03-26 17:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-26 17:57 ` Avi Kivity
2006-03-26 18:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-26 21:18 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-27 0:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-27 6:19 ` Avi Kivity
2006-03-27 19:48 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-28 20:04 ` Mariusz Mazur
2006-03-28 20:13 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-28 22:57 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-26 20:55 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-27 0:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-26 14:31 ` Eric Piel
2006-03-26 21:09 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-26 23:06 ` Eric Piel
2006-03-27 0:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-27 3:12 ` Jeff Dike
2006-03-28 14:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-28 15:57 ` [OT] Non-GCC compilers used for linux userspace Kyle Moffett
2006-03-28 16:13 ` Eric Piel
2006-03-28 16:20 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-28 16:59 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2006-03-28 17:13 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-03-28 17:28 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-03-28 17:41 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-05 17:01 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-03-28 17:08 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-03-28 17:56 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-03-28 21:47 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-29 21:23 ` Nix
2006-03-30 1:36 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-30 7:24 ` Nix
2006-03-30 20:26 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-30 22:02 ` Nix
2006-03-30 23:00 ` Harald Arnesen
2006-03-30 23:16 ` Rob Landley
2006-03-29 13:25 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2006-03-28 18:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 4:26 ` Peter Chubb
2006-03-30 15:15 ` Roger Heflin
2006-03-28 17:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] KABI example conversion and cleanup Ben Pfaff
2006-03-28 17:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2006-03-31 0:20 ` Arch-specific header inconsistency (asm-*/termios.h) Kyle Moffett
2006-04-02 17:58 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] KABI example conversion and cleanup Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-02 19:30 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-02 20:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
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