From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: irqbalance mandatory on SMP kernels?
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:42:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060418104225.09cd05cd@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20060418163539.GB10933@thunk.org
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:35:39 -0400
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 11:01:33AM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> > > There is an in-kernel IRQ balancer. Redhat just choose to turn it
> > > off, and do it in userspace instead. You can re-enable it if you
> > > compile your own kernel.
> >
> > Round-robin IRQ balancing is inefficient anyway. You'd get better cache
> > utilization letting one CPU take them all.
>
> IIRC, Van Jacobsen at his Linux.conf.au presentation made a pretty
> strong argument that irq balancing was never a good idea, describing
> them as a George Bush-like policy. "Ooh, interrupts are hurting one
> CPU --- let's hurt them **all** and trash everybody's cache!"
>
> Which brings up an interesting question --- why do we have an IRQ
> balancer in the kernel at all? Maybe the scheduler's load balancer
> should take this into account so that processes that have the
> misfortune of getting assigned to the wrong CPU don't get hurt too
> badly (or maybe if we have enough cores/CPU's we can afford to
> dedicate one or two CPU's to doing nothing but handling interrupts);
> but spreading IRQ's across all of the CPU's doesn't seem like it's
> ever the right answer.
>
> - Ted
There are two problems. First the scheduler probably doesn't account
for the reduced capacity of a CPU getting hammer with interrupts. Second,
it does make sense to balance different device's interrupts to different
CPU's. A longer term user mode IRQ balancer can make those decisions.
For the networking case, there is a real win if the application code runs
on the same CPU as the interrupt. Otherwise, you end up cache thrashing
control block structures and headers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-18 17:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-17 13:00 irqbalance mandatory on SMP kernels? Robert M. Stockmann
2006-04-17 13:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-17 14:15 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2006-04-17 14:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-17 14:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-04-17 15:01 ` Lee Revell
2006-04-18 16:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-04-18 17:42 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2006-04-18 17:53 ` Martin Bligh
2006-04-18 18:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-19 12:42 ` Erik Mouw
2006-04-19 14:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-19 14:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-04-19 14:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-20 7:43 ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-19 14:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
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