From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750929AbWDTNY6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:24:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750933AbWDTNY6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:24:58 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:12441 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750927AbWDTNY5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:24:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:24:54 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Andi Kleen Cc: Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, chrisw@sous-sol.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/11] security: AppArmor - Overview Message-ID: <20060420132454.GB10415@infradead.org> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Andi Kleen , Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, chrisw@sous-sol.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org References: <20060419174905.29149.67649.sendpatchset@ermintrude.int.wirex.com> <1145470463.3085.86.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 12:32:43AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > Arjan van de Ven writes: > > > > you must have a good defense against that argument, so I'm curious to > > hear what it is > > [I'm not from the apparmor people but my understanding is] > > Usually they claimed name spaces as the reason it couldn't work. > > In practice AFAIK basically nobody uses name spaces for > anything. That;s mostly because we were missing feature to actually make them usable. One of them was the shared subtree works which now is in and will be used in practice by things like clearcase. The second big thing we're missing is support to call mount() without addition privilegues.