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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 'make headers_install' kbuild target.
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:44:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060422144433.GE5010@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1145715974.11909.272.camel@pmac.infradead.org>

On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 03:26:14PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 16:11 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > Sorry, but I'm not a fan of doing much more work than required instead 
> > of getting a consensus first and then implementing the solution.
> 
> It _isn't_ significantly more work. The _real_ work is in reading
> through the header files and deciding which parts should be private and
> which can be public, then splitting them up accordingly into separate
> files (or using 'ifdef __KERNEL__' if appropriate). That's the kind of
> thing that you seem particularly good at, which is why I've asked if you
> could help us with it.
> 
> Moving the public files from one directory to another, if they've been
> suitably marked or listed somewhere, is _trivial_. Even if you've used
> #ifdef __KERNEL__ it's simple enough to do it automatically with tools
> like unifdef. The _real_ work which requires human attention is the same
> either way.

The problem is you need #ifdef's everywhere.

If part of a header file is part of the userspace ABI, this often means 
that you need #ifdef __KERNEL__'s for the #include's of headers that 
will not be part of the userspace ABI (like linux/compiler.h).

And how do you express that in header foo.h, the userspace part requires 
the userspace part of bar.h, while the kernel-internal part of foo.h 
also requires the kernel-internal part of bar.h?

And reading through header files doesn't become easier after adding five 
#ifdef __KERNEL__'s to a header file.

> But if you're not willing to help, that's fine. I just thought you'd be
> particularly suited to the task, that's all.

I'm sorry, but I don't like your approach.

> dwmw2

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-22 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-22  2:17 [PATCH] 'make headers_install' kbuild target David Woodhouse
2006-04-22  9:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 12:03   ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 12:38     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 12:48       ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 13:20         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 13:36           ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 14:11             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 14:26               ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 14:44                 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-04-22 14:56                   ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 15:30           ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 21:13             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-04-23  7:09               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-23 16:51                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-04-23 17:00                 ` Joshua Hudson
2006-04-22 14:14     ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-22 14:20       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-22 14:28         ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-22 14:47           ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-22 14:50           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-28 18:15             ` Rob Landley
2006-04-28 18:27               ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-28 19:59                 ` Rob Landley
2006-04-22 14:35         ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-23 20:47 ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-24  0:12 ` David Woodhouse
2006-04-28 18:13 ` Rob Landley
2006-04-28 18:22   ` David Woodhouse

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