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From: Tony Jones <tonyj@suse.de>
To: Joshua Brindle <method@gentoo.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/11] security: AppArmor - Overview
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:50:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060424155003.GC25238@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <444CEBC9.5030802@gentoo.org>

On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 11:16:25AM -0400, Joshua Brindle wrote:
> To make this much more real, the /usr/sbin/named policy that ships with 
> apparmor has the following line:

Ships with AppArmor where?  On SuSE?

> /** r,
> Thats right, named can read any file on the system, I suppose this is 
> because the policy relies on named being chrooted. So if for any reason 
> named doesn't chroot its been granted read access on the entire 
> filesystem. If I'm misunderstanding this policy please correct me but I 
> believe this shows the problem very loudly and clearly.

The d_path changes for absolute path mediation for chroot are not yet in any 
SuSE release. Nor are they reflected in any developed profiles (yet).

Another direction is a new security_chroot hook together with appropriate 
CLONE_FS tracking (inside AppArmor) to force chrooting confined tasks into a 
subprofile (similar to change hat). We are evaluating the options based on 
feedback here and from other places.  Hence the RFC.

I hope this helps.

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-24 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-19 17:49 [RFC][PATCH 0/11] security: AppArmor - Overview Tony Jones
2006-04-19 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/11] security: AppArmor - Integrate into kbuild Tony Jones
2006-04-19 17:57   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-19 18:10     ` Tony Jones
2006-04-19 18:35   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-04-19 19:55   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-04-19 20:52     ` Tony Jones
2006-04-19 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/11] security: AppArmor - Core headers Tony Jones
2006-04-19 18:01   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-20 17:43     ` Tony Jones
2006-04-19 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/11] security: AppArmor - LSM interface Tony Jones
2006-04-19 18:05   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-19 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/11] security: AppArmor - Core access controls Tony Jones
2006-04-19 18:10   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-19 18:57     ` Crispin Cowan
2006-04-19 23:05       ` Rik van Riel
2006-04-19 23:18         ` Seth Arnold
2006-04-19 23:21           ` Rik van Riel
2006-04-19 23:50             ` Crispin Cowan
2006-04-20 12:33       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20 16:27         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-04-20 17:39     ` Tony Jones
2006-04-19 19:32   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-19 19:50   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20  9:40   ` Al Viro
2006-04-20 11:40     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-20 21:39       ` Tony Jones
2006-04-19 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/11] security: AppArmor - Filesystem Tony Jones
2006-04-21 21:13   ` Amy Griffis
2006-04-19 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/11] security: AppArmor - Userspace interface Tony Jones
2006-04-20 21:39   ` Pavel Machek
2006-04-21 18:01     ` Tony Jones
2006-04-21 18:41       ` Pavel Machek
2006-04-19 17:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/11] security: AppArmor - Misc (capabilities, data structures) Tony Jones
2006-04-19 18:16   ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-19 17:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/11] security: AppArmor - Pathname matching submodule Tony Jones
2006-04-19 17:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/11] security: AppArmor - Audit changes Tony Jones
2006-04-21 21:21   ` Amy Griffis
2006-04-22  0:13     ` Steve Grubb
2006-04-22  0:19       ` Tony Jones
2006-04-19 17:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/11] security: AppArmor - Add flags to d_path Tony Jones
2006-04-19 22:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-20  5:36     ` Tony Jones
2006-04-20  8:26       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-20 16:43         ` Tony Jones
2006-04-20 17:04           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-20 17:50             ` Tony Jones
2006-04-21 12:16               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-24 13:05       ` Alan Cox
2006-04-19 17:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/11] security: AppArmor - Export namespace semaphore Tony Jones
2006-04-19 22:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-20 12:39   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20 12:46     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-20 12:05       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20 13:21         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-20 12:48           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20 12:58             ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20 22:11             ` Linda A. Walsh
2006-04-20 23:05               ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-21  1:29                 ` Linda A. Walsh
2006-04-21  2:09                   ` Chris Wright
2006-04-21  5:10                     ` Linda Walsh
2006-04-23 12:11                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-21 14:02               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20 19:45           ` Tony Jones
2006-04-20 20:16             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-20 20:22             ` James Morris
2006-04-20 21:50     ` Linda Walsh
2006-04-20 21:56       ` Al Viro
2006-04-20 23:54         ` James Morris
2006-04-21 13:59       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-19 18:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/11] security: AppArmor - Overview Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-19 22:32   ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-19 23:00     ` grundig
2006-04-19 23:38       ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-20  1:32         ` Crispin Cowan
2006-04-20 13:00           ` grundig
2006-04-20 13:09             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-20 13:15               ` Al Viro
2006-04-21  0:11               ` Tony Jones
2006-04-24 13:01             ` Alan Cox
2006-04-20  8:42     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-20 19:26       ` Crispin Cowan
2006-04-20 19:27       ` Chris Wright
2006-04-21 12:18         ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-21 17:30           ` Chris Wright
2006-04-21 18:07             ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-21 20:06               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-04-21 20:35                 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-21 20:44                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-21 21:38                   ` Dave Neuer
2006-04-22 10:01                     ` Thomas Bleher
2006-04-24  4:18               ` Neil Brown
2006-04-24  7:03                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-04-24 13:04                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-04-24 13:43                     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-04-24 21:07                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-24 23:52                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-04-25  6:22                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-25 16:45                       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-25 16:52                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-25 17:43                           ` Seth Arnold
2006-04-25 18:34                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-04-25 18:48                           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-25 18:56                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-04-25  4:25                     ` Casey Schaufler
2006-04-25  7:50                       ` James Morris
2006-04-25 12:46                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-04-25 15:06                           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-25 16:00                         ` Casey Schaufler
2006-04-25 16:21                           ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-04-26  3:42                             ` Casey Schaufler
2006-04-26 12:15                               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-27  0:21                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-04-27 14:47                                   ` Karl MacMillan
2006-04-25 17:29                           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-26  3:56                             ` Casey Schaufler
2006-04-26 11:32                               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-25 16:47                       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-24  7:14                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-24  8:11                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-04-25 19:27                   ` Seth Arnold
2006-04-24 13:11                 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-04-24 13:26                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-24 13:39                     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-04-24 15:16                       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-04-24 15:50                         ` Tony Jones [this message]
2006-04-24 17:03                           ` Joshua Brindle
2006-04-25 17:12                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-04-25 17:34                           ` Tony Jones
2006-04-24 13:52                     ` Alan Cox
2006-04-24 14:09                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-24 20:45                 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-25  8:10                   ` Neil Brown
2006-04-25  8:28                     ` Al Viro
2006-04-25 12:42                     ` James Carter
2006-04-25 12:43                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-25 14:50                         ` James Carter
2006-04-25 15:01                         ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-25 18:11                           ` Tony Jones
2006-04-25 21:25                             ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-25 17:07                     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-26 22:15                       ` Some Concrete AppArmor Questions - was " Neil Brown
2006-04-26 23:06                         ` Ken Brush
2006-04-27  4:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-27  6:52                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-27  7:40                               ` Chris Wright
2006-04-27 10:17                             ` Chris Wright
2006-04-27 14:42                               ` Karl MacMillan
2006-04-27 23:44                                 ` Chris Wright
2006-04-28 13:02                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-28 15:49                                     ` Casey Schaufler
2006-04-28 16:04                                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-04-28 21:49                                         ` James Morris
2006-04-28 16:56                                       ` Karl MacMillan
2006-04-27 16:03                               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-27 22:38                                 ` Chris Wright
2006-04-28 13:00                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-27 17:43                           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-27 17:58                             ` Ken Brush
2006-04-28 11:28                               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-28 11:47                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-28 12:28                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-27 11:02                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-27 11:05                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-20 11:29     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-04-20 13:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-20 22:32     ` Linda A. Walsh
2006-04-20 12:17 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-20 15:38   ` Joshua Brindle
2006-04-20 19:57   ` Crispin Cowan
2006-04-21 13:34     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-04-22 12:27 ` Pavel Machek

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