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From: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	axboe@suse.de, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, pbadari@us.ibm.com,
	arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] kernel facilities for cache prefetching
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 14:46:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060502144641.62df9c18.diegocg@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <346556235.24875@ustc.edu.cn>

El Tue, 2 May 2006 15:50:49 +0800,
Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn> escribió:

> 	2) kernel module to query the file cache

Can't mincore() + /proc/$PID/* stuff be used to replace that ?
Improving boot time is nice and querying the file cache would work
for that, but improving the boot time of some programs once the system
is running (ie: running openoffice 6 hours after booting) is something
that other preloaders do in other OSes aswell, querying the full file
cache wouldn't be that useful for such cases.

The main reason why I believe that the pure userspace (preload.sf.net)
solution slows down in some cases is becauses it uses bayesian heuristics
(!) as a magic ball to guess the future, which is a flawed idea IMHO.
I started (but didn't finish) a preloader which uses the process event
connector to get notifications of what processes are being launched,
then it profiles it (using mincore(), /proc/$PID/* stuff, etc) and
preloads things optimally the next time it gets a notification of the
same app.

Mac OS X has a program that implements your idea, available (the sources)
at http://darwinsource.opendarwin.org/projects/apsl/BootCache-25/

Also, mac os x uses launchd, as init/init.d replacement
(http://darwinsource.opendarwin.org/projects/apsl/launchd-106/)
If (as Arjan noticed) the bootup is not really IO-bound, launchd could
help to reduce the amount of CPU time wasted if the CPU time being wasted
is in shell interpreters (a more unixy port has been done by the freebsd
people - http://wikitest.freebsd.org/moin.cgi/launchd)

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-02 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060502075049.GA5000@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  7:50 ` [RFC] kernel facilities for cache prefetching Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 12:46   ` Diego Calleja [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20060502144203.GA10594@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 14:42       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 16:07         ` Diego Calleja
     [not found]           ` <20060503064503.GA4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  6:45             ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 18:14               ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-03 23:39                 ` Zan Lynx
2006-05-04  1:37                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-02 15:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-02 16:35     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]     ` <20060503041106.GC5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  4:11       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 17:28       ` Badari Pulavarty
     [not found]         ` <346733486.30800@ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 15:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-04 16:57             ` Badari Pulavarty
     [not found]             ` <20060505144451.GA6134@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-05 14:44               ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]     ` <20060503071325.GC4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  7:13       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 12:59     ` Nikita Danilov
2006-05-03 22:20     ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]       ` <20060506011125.GA9099@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-06  1:11         ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04  0:28     ` Linda Walsh
2006-05-04  1:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-04  7:08         ` Ph. Marek
2006-05-04  7:33           ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]             ` <20060504121454.GB6008@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:14               ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 12:34               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-03 21:45   ` Linda Walsh
     [not found]     ` <20060504121212.GA6008@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:12       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 18:57         ` Linda Walsh
     [not found]           ` <20060505152007.GB6134@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-05 15:20             ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04  9:02   ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-02  7:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]   ` <20060502080619.GA5406@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  8:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02  8:30     ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]       ` <20060502085325.GA9190@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  8:53         ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-06  6:49           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-05-02  8:55         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 11:39           ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]           ` <20060502114853.GA9983@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 11:48             ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 22:03       ` Dave Jones
2006-05-02  8:09 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]   ` <20060502082009.GA9038@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  8:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 22:05   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-05-02 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-02 23:36   ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]     ` <20060503023505.GB5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  2:35       ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]   ` <20060503023223.GA5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  2:32     ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]   ` <20060503071948.GD4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  7:19     ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]   ` <20060504122830.GA6205@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:28     ` Wu Fengguang

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