From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Michael Holzheu <holzheu@de.ibm.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi,
ioe-lkml@rameria.de, joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] s390: Hypervisor File System
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 23:49:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060502214908.GB18192@vrfy.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060502213043.GB30957@kroah.com>
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 02:30:43PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:48:42AM -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> > On May 2, 2006, at 00:00:53, Greg KH wrote:
> > >On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:29:23PM -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> > >>So my question stands: What is the _recommended_ way to handle
> > >>simple data types in low-bandwidth/frequency multiple-valued
> > >>transactions to hardware? Examples include reading/modifying
> > >>framebuffer settings (currently done through IOCTLS), s390 current
> > >>state (up for discussion), etc. In these cases there needs to be
> > >>an atomic snapshot or write of multiple values at the same time.
> > >>Given the situation it would be _nice_ to use sysfs so the admin
> > >>can do it by hand; makes things shell scriptable and reduces the
> > >>number of binary compatibility issues.
> > >
> > >I really don't know of a way to use sysfs for this currently, and
> > >hence, am not complaining too much about the different /proc files
> > >that have this kind of information in it at the moment.
> > >
> > >If you or someone else wants to come up with some kind of solution
> > >for it, I'm sure that many people would be very happy to see it.
> >
> > Hmm, ok; I'll see what I can come up with. Would anybody object to
> > this kind of API (as in my previous email) that uses an open fd as a
> > transaction "handle"?
>
> No, I think Kay played around with something like using the open fd of
> the directory as such a lock (or was he using flock on it, I can't
> remember now...)
If you can assume that processes accessing the values are cooperative,
it already works without any changes:
$ time flock /sys/class/firmware echo 1 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout
real 0m0.005s
$ flock /sys/class/firmware sleep 5&
[1] 6468
$ time flock /sys/class/firmware echo 1 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout
real 0m3.558s
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-02 21:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-28 9:22 [PATCH] s390: Hypervisor File System Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 9:43 ` Jörn Engel
2006-04-28 11:53 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 15:48 ` Jörn Engel
2006-04-28 9:56 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-28 17:36 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 17:43 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-02 8:06 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-28 10:36 ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-04-28 13:14 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-04-29 6:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-29 7:51 ` Greg KH
2006-04-29 8:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-03 8:48 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 22:10 ` Greg KH
2006-05-04 10:22 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-04 14:42 ` Greg KH
2006-05-04 15:01 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-04 15:34 ` Greg KH
2006-04-29 7:53 ` Greg KH
2006-04-29 8:41 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-29 21:55 ` Greg KH
2006-04-30 5:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-01 20:38 ` Greg KH
2006-05-01 23:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-02 4:00 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 5:23 ` Kay Sievers
2006-05-02 5:37 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 11:46 ` Kay Sievers
2006-05-02 21:28 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 21:33 ` Kay Sievers
2006-05-02 21:54 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 8:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-02 21:30 ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 21:49 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2006-05-02 23:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-03 9:33 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 9:42 ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-05-03 12:11 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 12:33 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 12:51 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 13:00 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 13:18 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 13:22 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-03 13:38 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 14:17 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-05-03 14:23 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 14:58 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-05-03 15:22 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 15:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-03 10:01 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-02 10:12 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-02 13:00 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-03 8:45 ` Michael Holzheu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-28 17:37 Michael Holzheu
2006-04-28 17:47 ` Jörn Engel
2006-05-02 7:25 ` Michael Holzheu
2006-05-05 13:22 Michael Holzheu
2006-05-05 21:14 ` Greg KH
2006-05-08 12:24 Michael Holzheu
2006-05-09 5:01 ` Greg KH
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