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From: DervishD <lkml@dervishd.net>
To: Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com>
Cc: Linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT, ext3fs, kernel 2.4.32... again
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 07:27:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060503052752.GA20657@DervishD> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060503060336.A1918058@wobbly.melbourne.sgi.com>

    Hi Nathan :)

 * Nathan Scott <nathans@sgi.com> dixit:
> > > Nothing else really make sense due to fcntl...
> > > 	fcntl(fd, F_SETFL, O_DIRECT);
> > > ...can happen at any time, to enable/disable direct I/O.
> > 
> >     I know, but that fcntl call should fail just like the open() one.
> > I mean, I don't find this very different, it's just another point
> > where the flag can be activated and so it should fail if the
> > underlying filesystem doesn't support it (and doesn't ignore it
> > in read()/write()).
> 
> Problem is there is no way to know whether the underlying fs
> supports direct IO or not here (fcntl is implemented outside the
> filesystem, entirely).

    I thought that it was implemented per filesystem.

> Which is not unfixable in itself (could use a superblock flag or
> something similar) but it's way out of scope for the sort of change
> going into 2.4 these days.

    Which approach does 2.6 kernel use? O_DIRECT is correctly handled
for ext3 there, AFAIK :? Are the differences too large?

    I know that this change would be intrusive and probably large,
but IMHO is a quite important bug, because it prevents apps to
selectively disable O_DIRECT (the flag is accepted by open(), so
there's no reason the app should bother about which caused the
read()/write() failures. In fact, is very difficult to know that
those failures are caused by partial/buggy support of O_DIRECT flag).

    Thanks for the information! :)

    Raúl Núñez de Arenas Coronado

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-03  5:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-27  6:32 O_DIRECT, ext3fs, kernel 2.4.32... again DervishD
2006-05-01  6:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-05-01 11:23   ` DervishD
2006-05-01 21:28     ` Nathan Scott
2006-05-01 22:23       ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-05-02 17:24       ` DervishD
2006-05-02 20:03         ` Nathan Scott
2006-05-03  5:27           ` DervishD [this message]
2006-05-03  6:35             ` Nathan Scott

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