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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Christopher Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sched_clock() uses are broken
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 11:16:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605031116.09428.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1146647462.7440.12.camel@homer>

On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:11, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 09:40 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 09:09, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > 
> > > Given that most people are going to end up using the pm_timer anyway, I
> > > don't see the point of even having a sched_clock().  If it's jiffy
> > > resolution, it's useless.  If it's wildly inaccurate (as it is in the
> > > SMP case, monotonicity issues aside) it's more than useless.
> > 
> > For sched_clock TSC is always used and it's fine - sched_clock
> > doesn't require the guarantees that make TSC often useless otherwise
> 
> Regrettable, that's not true.

Hmm, maybe I'm thinking too much x86-64. At least on x86-64 it's true.

I don't see a big reason to not do this on i386 either, except
on systems that truly don't have a TSC (386/486) 

Ok i suppose if you don't want cruft you can always go to 64bit @)

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-03  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-02 13:29 sched_clock() uses are broken Russell King
2006-05-02 14:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-02 16:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-02 16:50   ` Russell King
2006-05-02 17:01     ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-02 17:18       ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-02 18:55         ` Russell King
2006-05-02 19:05           ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-02 19:08             ` Russell King
2006-05-02 19:23               ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-02 21:35                 ` Russell King
2006-05-02 17:15     ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-04  3:50       ` George Anzinger
2006-05-04 14:18         ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-05-02 16:54   ` Christopher Friesen
2006-05-02 16:59     ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-02 17:07       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-03  7:09         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-03  7:40           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-03  9:11             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-03  9:16               ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-05-03  9:31                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-07 12:33           ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07 12:43             ` Russell King
2006-05-07 12:56               ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07 13:00                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07 13:18                   ` Russell King
2006-05-07 13:30                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07 13:55                       ` Russell King
2006-05-07 14:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-07 16:03                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-07 16:53                       ` Russell King
2006-05-07 17:52                         ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-07 17:37               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-07 17:32             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-08  4:14               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-08  4:37                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-08  4:46                   ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-08  5:24                     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-08  5:30                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-04 20:02 ` Florian Paul Schmidt

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