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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	apw@shadowen.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 NUMA panic compile error
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:38:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605152138.57347.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060515192614.GA24887@elte.hu>


> Nevertheless for hard-to-debug bugs i prefer if they can be reproduced 
> and debugged on 32-bit too, because x86_64 debugging is still quite a 
> PITA and wastes alot of time: for example it has no support for exact 
> kernel stacktraces.

Hopefully soon.

I think i386 only gained it very recently, so it can't be _that_ big
a problem.

The real issue is too deeply nested code like the callback hell
we have in some subsystems. Better would be to eliminate that. 2.4
was much nicer in this regard and there has been quite a lot of 
unnecessary complications in this area when the kernel went to 2.6.

> Also, the printout of the backtrace is butt-ugly and  
> as un-ergonomic to the human eye as it gets - who came up with that 
> "two-maybe-one function entries per-line" nonsense? [Whoever did it he 
> never had to look at (and make sense of) hundreds of stacktraces in a 
> row.]

The original goal was to make it fit as much as possible on 
the screen when you don't have a serial/net/fireconsole.
But arguably it's less and less useful because the kernel
has gotten so huge that most backtraces are very long and scroll
away anyways.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-15 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-15  7:56 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 10:09 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Eric Dumazet
2006-05-15 11:03   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 11:42     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Pekka Enberg
2006-05-15 13:28     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Eric Dumazet
2006-05-15 13:12 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Reuben Farrelly
2006-05-15 22:09   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Neil Brown
2006-05-15 14:08 ` [PATCH] x86 NUMA panic compile error Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-15 17:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:01     ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:14       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:08     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:08       ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-05-15 18:24         ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:24           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:45           ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-15 18:13       ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:34         ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:37           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:49             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 19:05             ` Dave Hansen
2006-05-15 19:11               ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 19:38                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-05-16  7:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-16  9:22                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:39                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 19:47                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 19:59                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 20:02                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 23:06                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-05-17  0:39                   ` Dave Jones
2006-05-17  1:21                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-05-15 18:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:28       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:52         ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:56           ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-15 18:59             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 18:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 19:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-15 16:40 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 17:04   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 17:30     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Takashi Iwai
2006-05-15 17:56       ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Takashi Iwai
2006-05-15 18:11         ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-16  9:04           ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Takashi Iwai
2006-05-15 18:50         ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 16:49 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Alexey Dobriyan
2006-05-15 17:01   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:01     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Alexey Dobriyan
2006-05-15 19:29     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michael Halcrow
2006-05-15 17:48 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 18:00   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 18:05 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jesper Juhl
2006-05-15 18:37 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 18:53   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 19:10     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-15 19:26       ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 20:17         ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-16  8:39           ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 12:55             ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 14:48               ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 15:18                 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-16 15:23                 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-05-16 16:08                   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Greg KH
2006-05-16 16:27                     ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-16 16:49                       ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Greg KH
2006-05-15 19:28 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 Ingo Molnar
     [not found] ` <6bffcb0e0605151003x5d3518b9o70dae3b3349c4f9f@mail.gmail.com>
2006-05-15 22:24   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1 David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 10:25 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1: no help text for MTD_NAND_CS553 Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:13   ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 11:46 ` [-mm patch] drivers/mtd/devices/docprobe.c: correct #if's Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:14   ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 11:48 ` [-mm patch] make dvb/b2c2/flexcop-fe-tuner.c:alps_tdee4_stv0297_tuner_set_params() static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:15 ` [-mm patch] drivers/media/video/pwc/: make code static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:32 ` [-mm patch] make variables static after klibc merge Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 12:37 ` [-mm patch] make drivers/mtd/nand/cs553x_nand.c:cs553x_init() static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 13:04   ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-16 12:39 ` [-mm patch] fs/nfs/: make code static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 13:24 ` [-mm patch] arch/i386/oprofile/: make functions static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 18:16   ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-16 19:07   ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-16 15:26 ` [-mm patch] fs/ocfs2/dlm/: cleanups Adrian Bunk
2006-05-17  1:36   ` Mark Fasheh
2006-05-16 15:30 ` [-mm patch] drivers/net/s2io.c: make bus_speed[] static Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 15:36   ` Andreas Mohr
2006-05-16 16:42     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-05-24  5:28   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-16 16:12 ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1: please drop add-raw-driver-kconfig-entry-for-s390.patch Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 16:37   ` Olaf Hering
2006-05-16 17:44     ` [2.6 patch] the overdue removal of the obsolete raw driver Adrian Bunk
2006-05-16 17:50       ` Olaf Hering
2006-05-17 13:12   ` 2.6.17-rc4-mm1: please drop add-raw-driver-kconfig-entry-for-s390.patch Alan Cox

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