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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, "Chen,
	Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg"
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 01:10:21 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605180110.22270.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1147873294.7596.13.camel@homer>

On Wednesday 17 May 2006 23:41, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:46 +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > On Wednesday 17 May 2006 21:42, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > Fair?  I said interactivity wise.  But what the heck, if we're talking
> > > fairness, I can say the same thing about I/O bound tasks.  Heck, it's
> > > not fair to stop any task from reaching the top, and it's certainly not
> > > fair to let them have (for all practical purposes) all the cpu they
> > > want once they sleep enough.
> >
> > Toss out the I/O bound thing and we turn into a steaming dripping pile of
> > dog doo whenever anything does disk I/O. And damned if there aren't a lot
> > of pcs that have hard disks...
>
> (you should have tried my patch set)

Last one of yours I tried suffered this.

> > Spits and stutters are not starvation. Luckily it gets no worse with this
> > patch.
>
> Ok, I'll accept that.  Spits and stutters _are_ interactivity issues
> though yes?.  Knowing full well that plunking long sleepers into the
> queue you are plunking them into causes spits and stutters, why do you
> insist on doing so?

Because I know of no real world workload that thuds us into spits and 
stutters.

> Oh well, we're well on the way to agreeing to disagree again, so let's
> just get it over with.  I hereby agree to disagree.

Indeed.

-- 
-ck

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-17 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-08 23:18 Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Tim Chen
2006-05-09  0:43 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-09  1:07   ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-12  0:04   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-13 12:27     ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-13 13:07       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-14 16:03     ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-15 19:01       ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-15 23:45         ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16  1:22           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-16  1:44             ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16  4:10           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-16 23:32           ` Tim Chen
2006-05-17  4:25             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17  4:45               ` Peter Williams
2006-05-17  5:24                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17  8:23             ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17  9:49               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 10:25                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 11:42                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 12:46                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 13:41                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 15:10                         ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-05-17 17:21                           ` Ray Lee
2006-05-17 19:33               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-18  0:35                 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18  1:10                   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-18  1:38                     ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18  5:44                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18  5:52                         ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18  7:04                           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18 12:59                             ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19  1:10                               ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 23:17                           ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19  1:30                             ` [PATCH] sched: fix interactive ceiling code Con Kolivas
2006-05-19  2:02                               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19  9:40                               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-19 14:37                               ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 16:19                                 ` tim_c_chen
2006-05-18 23:34                           ` Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19  1:07                             ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16  4:07         ` Mike Galbraith
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2006-05-18  4:01 Al Boldi

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