From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, "Chen,
Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg"
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 01:10:21 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605180110.22270.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1147873294.7596.13.camel@homer>
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 23:41, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:46 +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > On Wednesday 17 May 2006 21:42, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > Fair? I said interactivity wise. But what the heck, if we're talking
> > > fairness, I can say the same thing about I/O bound tasks. Heck, it's
> > > not fair to stop any task from reaching the top, and it's certainly not
> > > fair to let them have (for all practical purposes) all the cpu they
> > > want once they sleep enough.
> >
> > Toss out the I/O bound thing and we turn into a steaming dripping pile of
> > dog doo whenever anything does disk I/O. And damned if there aren't a lot
> > of pcs that have hard disks...
>
> (you should have tried my patch set)
Last one of yours I tried suffered this.
> > Spits and stutters are not starvation. Luckily it gets no worse with this
> > patch.
>
> Ok, I'll accept that. Spits and stutters _are_ interactivity issues
> though yes?. Knowing full well that plunking long sleepers into the
> queue you are plunking them into causes spits and stutters, why do you
> insist on doing so?
Because I know of no real world workload that thuds us into spits and
stutters.
> Oh well, we're well on the way to agreeing to disagree again, so let's
> just get it over with. I hereby agree to disagree.
Indeed.
--
-ck
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-17 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-08 23:18 Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Tim Chen
2006-05-09 0:43 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-09 1:07 ` Martin Bligh
2006-05-12 0:04 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-13 12:27 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-13 13:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-14 16:03 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-15 19:01 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-15 23:45 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16 1:22 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-16 1:44 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16 4:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-16 23:32 ` Tim Chen
2006-05-17 4:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 4:45 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-17 5:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 8:23 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 9:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 10:25 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 12:46 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-17 13:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-17 15:10 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-05-17 17:21 ` Ray Lee
2006-05-17 19:33 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-18 0:35 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 1:10 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-18 1:38 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 5:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18 5:52 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 7:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-18 12:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19 1:10 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-18 23:17 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 1:30 ` [PATCH] sched: fix interactive ceiling code Con Kolivas
2006-05-19 2:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-19 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-05-19 14:37 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 16:19 ` tim_c_chen
2006-05-18 23:34 ` Regression seen for patch "sched:dont decrease idle sleep avg" Chen, Kenneth W
2006-05-19 1:07 ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-16 4:07 ` Mike Galbraith
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2006-05-18 4:01 Al Boldi
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