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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: replacing X Window System !
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:25:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060520102526.GH10077@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605200733.08757.a1426z@gawab.com>

On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 07:33:08AM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 12:40:56AM +0200, linux cbon wrote:
> > > I think the discussion should move to X.Org ?
> >
> > The whole discussion is pointless anywhere as long as you are not
> > writing the code to implement your proposal.
> >
> > If you think you could send an idea and other people would implement it
> > you are misunderstanding how open source software works.
> >
> > You have your idea.
> >
> > It is YOUR job to write the code implementing your proposal.
> >
> > Then there's a basis for a technical discussion of the advantages and
> > disadvantages of your ideas.
> 
> Implementing an idea before discussing it's feasibility?
> 
> Kind of stupid, don't you think?

Sure, it does make sense to ask for comments before starting with an 
implementation.

But discussing possible patches also becomes kind of stupid if you
aren't willing to implement it yourself.

There have already been more than enough discussions regarding this 
issue - if he still considers his idea worth it HE must start with the 
implementation NOW.

He seems to be the kind of troll who wants to convince other people of 
his "great" ideas without writing a single line of code himself.

> > Otherwise, you are only wasting your (and our) time since there's
> > exactly a 0% probability that someone else will implement your ideas.
> 
> Maybe not 0% exactly.

In this case, 0% exactly.

> Not that I would agree with the in-Kernel X idea per se, but it does raise 
> the issue of a stable API once more, as it would allow more freedom to 
> create a module against a version line w/o fear of being rejected.

It does not raise the issue of a stable kernel API:

The solution is to work on getting the module included into the kernel. 
All problems with changing kernel APIs vanish as soon as your module is 
included. This is independent from what the module in question is doing.

Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt explains the advantages of not 
having a stable API.

> Thanks!
> Al

cu
Adrian

BTW: Don't drop people from the Cc.

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-20 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-20  4:33 replacing X Window System ! Al Boldi
2006-05-20 10:25 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-05-20 11:19   ` Al Boldi
2006-05-20 12:01     ` Neil Brown
2006-05-22  0:22       ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-22 10:50 "Döhr, Markus ICC-H"
2006-05-22 11:23 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-20  0:57 "Döhr, Markus ICC-H"
2006-05-20  1:10 ` Alexander Gran
2006-05-20  1:11 ` David Lang
2006-05-20  6:56   ` Bart Samwel
2006-05-20  7:14     ` shogunx
2006-05-20 10:51     ` Jan Knutar
2006-05-22 10:09 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-17 22:52 "Döhr, Markus ICC-H"
2006-05-17 11:11 "Döhr, Markus ICC-H"
2006-05-17 17:14 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2006-05-17  0:01 "Döhr, Markus ICC-H"
2006-05-17  0:15 ` Måns Rullgård
2006-05-19 22:43 ` Peter Gordon
2006-05-16 21:41 linux cbon
2006-05-16 21:51 ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-16 21:57 ` Måns Rullgård
2006-05-16 23:23   ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-05-16 22:19 ` alan
2006-05-16 22:42   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-16 23:05     ` alan
2006-05-17 11:47   ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 12:18     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 12:39       ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 13:19         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 14:10           ` Panagiotis Issaris
2006-05-17 14:19             ` Ondrej Zary
2006-05-17 14:23             ` Olivier Galibert
2006-05-17 14:46               ` Bob Copeland
2006-05-17 13:24         ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-17 13:46           ` Bob Copeland
2006-05-17 14:01             ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-17 13:39         ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-17 14:53           ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 15:09             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 15:14               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 15:30                 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-05-17 16:29                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 15:53                 ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 16:09                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-17 16:12                   ` Stas Myasnikov
2006-05-17 15:16             ` Alan Cox
2006-05-17 15:49               ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 16:11                 ` Stas Myasnikov
2006-05-17 17:52             ` Gábor Lénárt
2006-05-17 17:17           ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2006-05-17 17:33             ` grundig
2006-05-18 15:42               ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-18 18:40                 ` grundig
2006-05-18 12:00         ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-18 17:28           ` linux cbon
2006-05-18 18:42             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-18 18:52             ` Thierry Vignaud
2006-05-18 19:31               ` linux cbon
2006-05-18 19:37                 ` David Lang
2006-05-18 20:12                 ` Gerhard Mack
2006-05-18 22:22                   ` linux cbon
2006-05-19  9:09                     ` Martin Mares
2006-05-18 20:12                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-05-18 21:47                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-18 22:03                   ` linux cbon
2006-05-18 22:23                     ` Al Viro
2006-05-21 14:56                 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-05-19  9:26             ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-19 11:08               ` Panagiotis Issaris
2006-05-19 13:07                 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-19 14:34                 ` David Greaves
2006-05-19 14:40                   ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-19 15:13                     ` linux cbon
2006-05-19 15:18                       ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-19 22:09                         ` linux cbon
2006-05-19 22:51                           ` Peter Gordon
2006-05-21 20:49                           ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-20  0:43                         ` Jeff Carr
2006-05-19 15:01                   ` Sander
2006-05-19 22:29                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-19 22:34                       ` David Lang
2006-05-19 22:20               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-19 22:40               ` linux cbon
2006-05-20  1:02                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-05-20  6:31                   ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-20  8:25                 ` jerome lacoste
2006-05-21  6:16                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-21 12:17                   ` linux cbon
2006-05-21  6:38                 ` Manu Abraham
2006-05-18 20:27           ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-17 13:20     ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-17 18:34   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-16 23:10 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2006-05-17  8:46   ` Ondrej Zary
2006-05-17  9:59     ` Carlos Silva
2006-05-17 13:27     ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-17 17:37       ` David Schwartz
2006-05-17 17:46         ` alan
2006-05-17 17:56           ` Gábor Lénárt
2006-05-17 17:12     ` Felipe Alfaro Solana

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