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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: 2.6.17-rc2+ regression -- audio skipping
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:33:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605221033.49153.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44710162.3070406@keyaccess.nl>

On Monday 22 May 2006 10:10, Rene Herman wrote:
> Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 22:24 +0200, Rene Herman wrote:
> >> 2.6.17-rc2 (and 3 and 4) make my audio skip. Audio player is ogg123
> >> running in an xterm. Browsing heavy sites (say, eBay) with Firefox
> >> 1.5.0.3 gets me audio underruns quickly. This does not happen on
> >> 2.6.17-rc1 and earlier (I just tested extensively; quite impossible to
> >> generate underruns on -rc1, quickly on -rc2 and later).
> >>
> >> It's not ALSA; reverted */sound/* from the rc1-rc2 interdiff. It's also
> >> not cfq-iosched.c. Any likely culprits in there? (I'm not a GIT user).
> >
> > I would suspect the scheduler interactivity patches.  Please confirm
> > this by running ogg123 at nice -20 - do the underruns persist?
>
> They do persist. Thanks for the hint though -- "sched: fix interactive
> task starvation" is the culprit:
>
> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=comm
>it;h=5ce74abe788a26698876e66b9c9ce7e7acc25413

Good investigative work! Makes sense that falling on the expired array would 
make for terrible latency for audio apps if your cpu was stretched just the 
right amount.

> Added author and acked-by's to the CC. Mike, this patch is no good for
> me. Audio underruns galore, with only ogg123 and firefox (browsing the
> GIT tree online is also a nice trigger by the way).
>
> If I back it out, everything is fine for me again. Back-out attached as
> a patch against -rc4. This also backs out your follow-up "don't awaken
> RT tasks on expired array" as it was dependant:
>
> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=comm
>it;h=8a5bc075b8d8cf7a87b3f08fad2fba0f5d13295e
>
> While looking at the patch I noticed there was +1 difference in the
> "limit" value between the macro and the static inline version of
> expired_starving() so I experimented with adding that back but that
> wasn't it unfortunately.
>
> I can test patches (preferably versus -rc4) although possibly not quickly.

This close to 2.6.17 the safest thing we can and should do is simply back out 
the patch.

-- 
-ck

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-22  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-21 20:24 2.6.17-rc2+ regression -- audio skipping Rene Herman
2006-05-21 21:30 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-22  0:10   ` Rene Herman
2006-05-22  0:17     ` Rene Herman
2006-05-22  0:33     ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2006-05-22  2:14       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-22  2:43         ` Con Kolivas
2006-05-22  3:10           ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-22  3:30             ` Peter Williams
2006-05-22  4:53               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-22  5:38                 ` Peter Williams
2006-05-22  6:00                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-05-22  6:34                     ` Peter Williams
2006-05-23  5:22                       ` Peter Williams
2006-05-22  3:26           ` Peter Williams
2006-05-22 18:22         ` Rene Herman

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