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From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	devmazumdar <dev@opensound.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to check if kernel sources are installed on a system?
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 23:55:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060528215504.GS13513@lug-owl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1148851660.27461.23.camel@mindpipe>

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On Sun, 2006-05-28 17:27:39 -0400, Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 22:45 +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> > ...which isn't always the worst solution to the problem. If some guy
> > doesn't want to jump through the loops to figure out what's actually
> > broken, Windows may be a good solution for them. "World domination"
> > also means "dominated by the world's problems," so I tend to go a step
> > back from time to time:-)
> 
> Yes, if it were a perfect world and we had access to all the hardware
> specs like Microsoft does, we would not need these users' help.  But the
> users have access to a lot more hardware than the developers do and
> trial and error is often the only solution.

But this isn't a perfect world.

> If they give up and go back to Windows we may never support their
> hardware correctly.

No user for that given hardware, then there's no sense in supporting
it. If there's a user that *really* wants that hardware supported,
then they will put effort into getting it to work, either by helping
debugging, hacking or by paying some expert to reverse-engineer an
existing driver.

MfG, JBG

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-28 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-25 21:19 How to check if kernel sources are installed on a system? devmazumdar
2006-05-25 21:27 ` alan
2006-05-25 21:29 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-25 22:02   ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 22:15     ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-25 22:25       ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 22:34         ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 22:40           ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 21:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-25 21:35   ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 21:32 ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-25 21:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 21:39   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-25 21:42     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-26 14:36       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-25 21:44     ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 22:52       ` Olivier Galibert
2006-05-26  4:23         ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-26 14:37       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-26 15:01         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-05-27 10:47           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-25 21:41 ` Dave Jones
2006-05-25 22:29 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-25 22:39   ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-25 23:06     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-25 23:16       ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-26  0:12         ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-25 23:00   ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-26  0:24     ` Måns Rullgård
2006-05-26 14:29   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-26 15:35     ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-27 12:21       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-27 19:52         ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-27 20:21           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-27 22:21             ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-28  8:27               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 10:13                 ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-27 14:41       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-27 22:05         ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-28 13:03     ` Heiko Carstens
2006-05-28 13:12       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-28 13:45         ` Heiko Carstens
2006-05-28 17:03       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 17:52         ` Lee Revell
2006-05-28 18:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 18:22             ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-28 19:10             ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-28 19:55             ` Lee Revell
2006-05-28 20:45               ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-28 21:27                 ` Lee Revell
2006-05-28 21:55                   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw [this message]
2006-05-28 22:02                     ` Lee Revell
2006-05-28 22:38                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-05-29 12:11                         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-29 12:38                           ` Steven Rostedt
2006-05-29  4:44               ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29  4:52                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29  5:35                   ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-29  5:46                     ` David Miller
2006-05-29  5:59                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-29  6:09                     ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-29  6:11                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29  6:57                       ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29  7:01                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29  7:29                           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29  7:05                         ` 4Front Technologies
2006-05-29  7:23                           ` Brian F. G. Bidulock
2006-05-29  7:43                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-29 12:23                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-29 15:52                       ` Christopher Friesen
2006-05-29 16:00                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-28 20:40             ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-25 22:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-26  0:09   ` Thomas Backlund

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