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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
Cc: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git patch] libata resume fix
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:48:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060601134802.GK4400@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447E5EAD.5070808@shaw.ca>

On Wed, May 31 2006, Robert Hancock wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >The trade-off is that if I have a 15k rpm SCSI drive, it would take a 
> >lot of design changes to make it spin up quickly, and improve a function 
> >which is usually done on a server once every MTBF when replacing the 
> >failed unit.
> >
> >I think the majority of very large or very fast drives are in systems 
> >which don't (deliberately) power cycles often, in rooms where heat is an 
> >issue. And to spin up quickly take a larger power supply... 30 sec is 
> >fine with most users.
> >
> >Couldn't find a spin-up time for the new Seagate 750GB drive, but the 
> >seek sure is fast!
> 
> I wouldn't guess that even a 15K drive would take nearly that long. For 
> boot time on servers it doesn't matter much though, disk spinup time is 

I do use a 15K rpm drive in my workstation (hello git!), and the spin up
really isn't that bad. Less than 10 seconds for the actual spin up, I
would say.

> in the noise compared to the insane BIOS delays on most of them during 
> bootup. Like on some servers (ahem.. IBM) which have about a 15 second 
> delay on the main BIOS screen, 10 second delays on every network boot 
> ROM, a 1 minute delay on the SCSI controller before it even starts 
> scanning the bus, then another good 10 seconds before it starts booting. 
> Gets annoying after a few reboots..

Indeed, the BIOS bootup time on servers is typically anywhere from
really bad to truly awful.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-01 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2006-06-01  3:27         ` [git patch] libata resume fix Robert Hancock
2006-06-01 13:48           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-06-01 14:20             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-06-06  6:54             ` Tejun Heo
2006-06-06  7:05               ` Jens Axboe
2006-06-06  7:10                 ` Tejun Heo
2006-05-28 20:34 Jeff Garzik
2006-05-29 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-30 13:22   ` Mark Lord
2006-05-30 18:26     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-30 18:40       ` Ric Wheeler
2006-05-30 22:37       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-31  6:47         ` Jens Axboe
2006-05-31  6:56           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-31 22:01       ` Bill Davidsen
2006-05-30 22:34     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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