From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751117AbWFBEgr (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:36:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751118AbWFBEgr (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:36:47 -0400 Received: from smtp.enter.net ([216.193.128.24]:58642 "EHLO smtp.enter.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751117AbWFBEgr convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:36:47 -0400 From: "D. Hazelton" To: Ville =?iso-8859-1?q?Syrj=E4l=E4?= Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:36:39 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20060519224056.37429.qmail@web26611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <21d7e9970606011815y226ebb86ob42ec0421072cf07@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606020036.39773.dhazelton@enter.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday 02 June 2006 04:34, Ville Syrjälä wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 11:15:47 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > >> Without specifying a design here are a few requirements I would have: > >> > >> 1) The kernel subsystem should be agnostic of the display server. The > >> solution should not be X specific. Any display system should be able > >> to use it, SDL, Y Windows, Fresco, etc... > > > > of course, but that doesn't mean it can't re-use X's code, they are > > the best drivers we have. you forget everytime that the kernel fbdev > > drivers aren't even close, I mean not by a long long way apart from > > maybe radeon. > > matroxfb is clearly better than the X driver. atyfb too IMO. Hopefully the work me, Dave and Tony are doing is going to make it a level field. If it still doesn't improve things you are still free to use the fbcon system. THat's one part of the design that will not change. DRH