From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030496AbWFIVLu (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:11:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932398AbWFIVLu (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:11:50 -0400 Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:21724 "EHLO rgminet01.oracle.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932328AbWFIVLt (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Jun 2006 17:11:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:11:23 -0700 From: Joel Becker To: Alex Tomas Cc: Jeff Garzik , Alan Cox , Chase Venters , Linus Torvalds , Andreas Dilger , Andrew Morton , ext2-devel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cmm@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ext2-devel] [RFC 0/13] extents and 48bit ext3 Message-ID: <20060609211123.GI3574@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Tomas , Jeff Garzik , Alan Cox , Chase Venters , Linus Torvalds , Andreas Dilger , Andrew Morton , ext2-devel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cmm@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org References: <1149880865.22124.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4489CB42.6020709@garzik.org> <20060609204418.GG3574@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Burt-Line: Trees are cool. X-Red-Smith: Ninety feet between bases is perhaps as close as man has ever come to perfection. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 12:49:54AM +0400, Alex Tomas wrote: > >>>>> Joel Becker (JB) writes: > JB> Which is irrelevant. If you tell the world "extents are > JB> better!", they're going to turn them on regardless of whether you > JB> consider their situation a good candidate. Many non-kernel-hackers > JB> started using reiserfs before it was usably stable, just because > JB> "journaling is better!" > > I haven't said that so far. I feel absolutely comfortable to put > as many warnings as needed from your point of view. When I say "you", I mean the general consensus. You can scream "don't do this" as loud as you want, the world might drown you out. Not every random person that sees "new extents in ext3" is going to know that Alex is the authority. They certainly aren't going to read the documentation. They'll read some comment on some website that says "all you need is '-o extents'!" Joel -- "A narcissist is someone better looking than you are." - Gore Vidal Joel Becker Principal Software Developer Oracle E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com Phone: (650) 506-8127